Helmet Rule

[Dedh_Quintal]

Wanna get your thoughts on this. Had a long discussion with CAD. Got nasty due to the ID. Lets get going here.



Helmet rule is just another money spinning scheme of the govt ?

[DQ]

KYA huwa CAD, No arguments kya?



Another controversial topic hum ghareeb log se, blog kar raha hoon.



What do you say about that ?



http://kaamwali.fullhydblogs.com

[Red Combat]

Theek hai sun le. Muje bhi kaam nahin hai.



I bought helmet about an year ago - Naidu's period I think, cos there was news that they are gonna make wearing helmet madate. Then I had to buy a lock for my helmet. Then I had to buy side mirrors for my bike.



I wear helmet while driving since then.

I dont mind wear helmet while driving.

I dont mind wear helmet while driving, except that I hate it when I get a call on my cell while driving, will have to pullover. I am thinking of buying handfree.



Its good, but expensive. Too many accessories reqd to accomodate helmet.

[CtrlAltDel]

i dont have the energy to say it again....if required i'll give the link to that thread so ppl can read my views.



and Combatji....without helmets u'd use the cell phone while driving and thats worse...so u r better off pulling over to answer the phone call....or opt for an ear piece for yr phone: a good one wud set u back by just Rs.250-300....if u feel thats expensive, u shud be taking the bus......or avoid drinking/smoking for some days to save that amt.



Side mirrors are important safety devices. they come free with the bikes, why did u remove them in the first place?



if u dont have a helmet lock, u have to lug it around where ever u go...so isnt a lock better?

[DQ]

Dekha kitna naak me dum hain: Aur koi faida nahin helmet pehne se.



CAD samajh jao

[CtrlAltDel]

CAD samajh jao

ek baar experiment ke liye...ek 40kmph speed ke bike se sar pe giro....without helmet....zinda bachoge tho khud samajh jaoge...





i wont post anymore to counter your stupid arguements....it wud lend credibility to what u say....

[akhilis2cool]

CAD samajh jao

ek baar experiment ke liye...ek 40kmph speed ke bike se sar pe giro....without helmet....zinda bachoge tho khud samajh jaoge...


i wont post anymore to counter your stupid arguements....it wud lend credibility to what u say....

i second CADS views on helmets. nothing can guaruntee 100% safety...helmets only reduce the impact of the accident to a gr8 extent....they r ur best chance of survival in case of an accident.

aap maano ya na maano

[The Rainmaker]

ek baar experiment ke liye...ek 40kmph speed ke bike se sar pe giro....without helmet....zinda bachoge tho khud samajh jaoge...

hehehe.. i agree with you CAD. thats the only way for stubborn heads to understand the value of a helmet!

[DQ]

Goes on to tell what amateurs I am dealing with.



Rajbhavan road, guys on Shogun, speed 80-100 (No one is wearing a helmet).



Cycle whizzes from the boom gates (Makhta) comes in the way. Guys avoid it, hit a part of it. Driver applies both brakes, the pillon rider takes aflight of 8-12 meters.



The driver goes scraping with the bike for another 6 meters. The bikes fork is bent. Both drivers get up, bruises on cheek, neck, shoulder and knees. Load the bike in a Auto of to a mechanic.



Lesson : Be in control of your vehicle, stay active.



What Govt needs to learn :



1. Impose a speed limit on such roads. In hyd (Necklace road, Rajbhavan road, Tank bund etc)

2. Create seprate cycle tracks, train users to stay in cycle tracks.

3. A signal near the boom gates.

No signal there as VIPS and Governor need to whizz past on this road.

[CtrlAltDel]

Goes on to tell what amateurs I am dealing with.

Rajbhavan road, guys on Shogun, speed 80-100 (No one is wearing a helmet).

Cycle whizzes from the boom gates (Makhta) comes in the way. Guys avoid it, hit a part of it. Driver applies both brakes, the pillon rider takes aflight of 8-12 meters.

The driver goes scraping with the bike for another 6 meters. The bikes fork is bent. Both drivers get up, bruises on cheek, neck, shoulder and knees. Load the bike in a Auto of to a mechanic.

Lesson : Be in control of your vehicle, stay active.

A Professional Hypothetical analysis! in the situation u describe, it is more likely that atleast the pillion rider wud be fighting for life at NIMS or OUGH.

What Govt needs to learn :

1. Impose a speed limit on such roads. In hyd (Necklace road, Rajbhavan road, Tank bund etc)
2. Create seprate cycle tracks, train users to stay in cycle tracks.
3. A signal near the boom gates.
No signal there as VIPS and Governor need to whizz past on this road.

u r right....but a fall from a bike can happen even in the safest conditions. i never said helmet is a solution for traffic ills. the arguement is that helmets wud save life in an accident. why do many countries with strictest traffic rules make helmets compelsory for all two wheelers....including bicycles in some places? a fall on the head from a bike going at 30 or 40 is as fatal. why speak of only accidents? what abt ,say, an oil slick on the road?



damn......i dont want to reply here but i really want to know if this guy is wating for an accident for himself or a friend/relative b4 the penny drops in his grey matter.



DQ must be ZC's long lost brother i think....

[DQ]

A Professional Hypothetical analysis! in the situation u describe, it is more likely that atleast the pillion rider wud be fighting for life at NIMS or OUGH.

[/quote]



There again lies the fault, you have built a tower around your self and don wanna look over it.



The Guy riding the bike was me, and pillon rider is very much in Hyderabad.



There are a couple of more instances. Look if death was there it would have come with the helmet on to.



Helmets are not the Solution. If Helmet is the solution, Lifestyle and it likes should start selling Steel Armours instead of Cotton and terricot pants. With the way the traffic is in our city. Walking could also harm you.



Its again, look at the nut behind the wheels not the helmet.!!!

[azazel]

Helmets are not the Solution. If Helmet is the solution, Lifestyle and it likes should start selling Steel Armours instead of Cotton and terricot pants. With the way the traffic is in our city. Walking could also harm you.

saaar, we never said Helmets are the solution. They are just a precautionary measure against potential injuries. ive seen quite a few instances where a major injury was avoided just because the rider was wearing a helmet. Death is something else altogether, jab bulaava aajaye to usey vapas nahee bhej sakte! n now plz.. this is just turning into an argument for aurgument's sake, close it

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Sheeesh! whats wrong with this guy?

Whats your problem? Is it the helmet rule or the lack of traffic discipline?

You should be asking for both, but why criticize the helmet rule? it saves lives. you are lucky that your head didnt crack, I have seen several instances cases where it cracked.

Strict licence tests and implementation of traffic rules/fines is the perfect solution, and helmet is the step in right direction. The next thing the government need to implement is tougher licence tests.

Teach people how to drive on road and till that is done, wear your helmet.

[CtrlAltDel]

The Guy riding the bike was me, and pillon rider is very much in Hyderabad.

its yr good luck that yr head didnt hit the road. what if it had...?
last month on R.K.Puram Flyover an official of ICICI bank died in front of me. he was on a bike and not moving so fast too. his bike slipped while avoiding an auto, and when he fell his head bounced twice on the road and broke. rest of his body was undamaged except for some bruises. a helmet wud have saved his life.

Look if death was there it would have come with the helmet on to.

Helmets are not the Solution.[/quote]who said that? accidents can happen anytime and helmets increase the chances of escaping alive.



why am i posting here...

ok...this is my last on this thread.........whatever the provocation.....

[akhilis2cool]

Yesterdday night.....tankbund....two guys speeding away on tankbund road...didnt see a truck standing on the road side...crashed into it....one died on the spot....the other enroute to da hospital...a helmet wld have saved at least one life there

[azazel]

Yesterdday night.....tankbund....two guys speeding away on tankbund road...didnt see a truck standing on the road side...crashed into it....one died on the spot....the other enroute to da hospital...a helmet wld have saved at least one life there

correction, there were 3 ppl, all died..

one more thing, they were medicos who's families depended on them

[The Rainmaker]

DQ must be ZC's long lost brother i think....

i think so too!!



btw DQ, your Lesson suggestions "be more alert while driving" & "ask the govt to impose speed limits" etc are alright...... but lets set aside the fact that you may be the best bike-rider out there.... what if somebody else bangs you from the side/behind or rams into you all of a sudden before you can see him?



if such a thing happens, you may complain all you want about the govt and about whose mistake it really was... but you have to SURVIVE the accident first. u shouldnt end up damaging your brain Further

[DQ]

CAD wrote about a licence (Sorry about infringing on another post)



its possible...but u might have to have some "address proof" to apply for a licence. u get an apartment here and after u pay yr first electricity or telephone bill, u can use that as your address proof. contact a friendly neighborhood "agent" who will get things done in a jiffy if the red tape confuses you....



Well if this is the criteria for getting a license. How safe are our roads ?

Will helmets solve the issue.



Instead of blaming me, or just arguing look at the facts.



Someone mentioned the tragic accident of last evening on Tank Bund.



1. Why were the Medicos triple riding. Does it make sense.

2. Speed as much as you can control.

3. Apparently even if all 3 of them were wearing Helmets, they would have perished, with the speed and the impact of their collision.



Do not try to fool yourself into beliving that helmets would have saved the day.



Mistakes



1. Heavy vehicle on a No Entry zone.

2. Over speeding vehicle.

3. 3 people definatelly, speaking to each other, not looking at the road.

4. With the riding experience I have, Height of truck and impact would have been on the Upper Ribs (Chest) and the Neck area.



The Police come back saying that we do not have enough resources to monitor the speed of traffic on roads.

The fact is -



Mamool collectors’ let heavy vehicles ply in city



These ‘collectors’ are policemen designated to collect ‘mamools’ by their superiors. Some of them do not even have any jurisdiction. They operate in any part of the city. A lorry driver or a sevenseater driver who pays the amount demanded by the ‘collector’ is given a note with some initials scribbled on it. This gives him the ‘licence’ to pass through roads that are otherwise out of bounds. Other policemen too allow him ‘safe passage’ on the way, if he flashes the ‘licence’.



The number of accidents I have seen and followed, On these roads. (Tank Bund, Neklace Road, Flyover, Rajbahvan Road) All have been related to over speeding.



The inefficiency of the RTA to control licensing process. The inefficiency of Govt to educate road users. The inadequency in being able to control speed limits.



The inept rules to book glaring traffic offenders causes most of the mishaps. Helmets will not resolve this.



Helmet is only a money spinning scheme. First educate users. Come tough on offenders. Then introduction of Helmet rule will be a worthy cause.



Please read the other mishaps that occured on the city roads just yesterday.

- Auto hits divider, driver killed

An auto driver, M Anjaiah, 39, resident of Jhinsi Chowraha, died on Sunday after the auto he was driving hit a road divider at Masab Tank. The Saifabad police have registered a case and are investigating the matte



Who is to balme, the Roads and building dept!!! The divider probably is unsafe, I have seen over 30 cars and autos Ram into Dividers on rainy days as they are not flourescent painted. The Dividers are the one coming from Mehdipatnam to Masab tank. The other one lakdi ka pul to Masab tank. Both are unsafe and are built as if a plane will be taking off from there.



- MCH employee dies in accident



An MCH employee, Md Shanawaza alias Hussain, 20, resident of West Marredpally, who was travelling along with his friend in a Maruti car, died after the car hit a road divider on the Necklace road, near Rock Garden. His friend escaped with minor injuries. The Ramgopalpet police have registered a case.



Would an helmet save the day. Even today I see cars going over 100 Ks on Necklace road.

[DQ]

Do not argue, when you do not have your facts right. A constant referal to this thread was made in The Nizam thread.



What happened ?

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Helmet is only a money spinning scheme. First educate users. Come tough on offenders. Then introduction of Helmet rule will be a worthy cause.

Your entire arguement is based on the premise that those who are supporting helmet rule oppose (or donot understand the significance of) strict implementation of traffic rules and licencing.

Now tell me did you find such an arguement from any one here? Can you quote anyone saying that helmet is the be all end all of all traffic problems in the city?

Now what do we need to do?

How can the state implement tougher laws? can they be implemented overnight?

Can we eliminate corruption among the traffic cops overnight?

The road infrastructure is woefully inadequate and didnt keep up with the exponential rise in number of vehicles plying on roads, the roads we are using now are not designed to handle high volumes of traffic. can we lay roads overnight?

Do people understand signals and signs?

Assuming there is an initiative, does the state have necessary funds to do all the above?



Given the above, helmet rule is a easy (as in easy implementation) and positive step in the right. direction.

Does it save lives? definitely. Death from head injuries can be avoided.



Ps: Before you reply to this message read very carefully what I am saying and try to understand. Thank you.

[asli_badmash]

Do not argue, when you do not have your facts right. A constant referal to this thread was made in The Nizam thread.
What happened ?

You got your ass kicked in the Nizam thread like how the Nizam got his ass kicked by the British.

~badmash~

[DQ]

Was it the Brits or Police Action.



Get your facts right.



As far as the other thread is concerned, its the other way round.



Its the old Hyderabadi Mahavra



Gire to Gire tang unchi. So be care ful.



And do not force me to get nasty. Beleive me you will regret.

[asli_badmash]

Was it the Brits or Police Action.
Get your facts right.

Oh.. so you are pissed off about the Police Action... i.e how the Indian forces took charge over Hyderabad. But it was bound to happen. If the Nizam was not going to become a part of India after freedom.. by the way the FREEDOM which he never contributed to.



Do you think people who wroked for the freedom would leave India to be divided again so... Nizam could Invite the British again to cause trouble in India.



No way dude... Police action was good!



NIZAM had to go. He had no army and no way of protecting the people of Hyderabad. Yes Hyderabad lost.... Yes people of Hyderabad lost.. but because of whom, because of the inactions and ineptitude of Nizam. Do you still think he did good...



Are you thinking about starting trouble in hyderabad like in Kashmir ? Wanting a seperate Hyderabad and everything. Tell us dude... It looks obvious here.



~badmash~

[DQ]

Who is talking about winning and losing here.



Was Nizam a visionary or not.



Porus was a great ruler of India, Lost to Alexander, So!! Its not about losing.



When in power Nizam (Mir Osman Ali Khan), did a lot for the people of his state.



The fruits of which are still being enjoyed by us. Is that not being visionary.



That is the problem with you and Mayavi, you come to conclusions.



Well if you respect Nizam, you become anti Indian. Ha LOLz



Grow up ...Grow Up

[akhilis2cool]

stop fighting ...wear helmets