Should Telangana be separated?

by **tipu** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:17 pm

Hi,whats ur opinion about telengana seperation.

by **Fiddler** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:22 pm

I think the whole concept of states wanting to split into various parts is completely ridiculous. Closer to the point, the separation of Telengana will completely disrupt the economy of Andhra Pradesh, and bring in years of chaos, which is why I think it\'s a stupid idea.

by **peeping tom** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:42 pm

Telengana comprises of which districts?

by ZC » Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:35 am

Telangana: Adilabad, nizamabad, khammam, warangal, karimnagar, hyd, mehboobnagar, medak, nalgonda, ranga reddy. Andhra: Srikakulam, vizainagaram, visakhapatnam, west and east godavari, krishna, guntur, prakasam, nellore. Rayalaseema: kurnool, chiotoor, anantapur, cuddapah. are there any new districts ? i dont know, ha ha ha.

by **Ramesh** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:34 pm

It\'s upto you!

by **venky** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:32 pm

Hey buddy, I agree 2 u. It\\\\\\\'s very rideculous to have seperate states with the same tongue. These politicians who are just for their gains what to split the state and duplicate the ministry for chairs. Sucksss okie.

by **Anil** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:36 pm

Yaaaaawn....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... Didn\'t we had this discussion very recently? I am sure it had all the elements to savour and lower our eyes in shame. We made sure to stoop to the lowest disgusting level with some very sordid details and some really mind-boggling theories and distasteful conclusions, lots of slandering and what not. If you still don\'t believe check the Board \"Separate Telangana?\" started by ZC not very long ago. For heaven\'s sake, don\'t we have anything else to discuss????

by **peeping tom** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:47 pm

Thank you very much ZC. But what s the difference between Andhra and Royaluseema? Why telengana people want separation?

by **peeping tom** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:49 pm

What are the view of Hyderabadi muslims over Telengana? They want it? or dont want it?

by **peeping tom** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:51 pm

What are the views of Hyderabadi Hindus and settlers(outsiders) over Telengana. They want it ? or dont want it?

by **telenganite** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:03 pm

THE demand for a separate Telangana state has surfaced again in Andhra Pradesh. It has acquired prominence after the deputy speaker of the state assembly, Chandrasekhar Rao, resigned from the post and the Telugu Desam. He announced the formation of the Telangana Rashtriya Samiti to fight for a separate state. The Congress MLAs from Telangana region have also demanded a separate state. They have set up a Telangana Congress Forum and the 41 Congress MLAs from the region have petitioned the Congress high command to accept the demand.
 
 The formation of Andhra Pradesh in 1955 took place after a prolonged struggle for the formation of a linguistic state for all the Telugu-speaking people. The Vishalandhra movement was in the forefront of the countrywide movement for the formation of linguistic states in the 1950s. Such a mass movement arose because the new Congress rulers went back on the commitment made during the freedom struggle for the reorganisation of states on a linguistic basis.
 
 The Vishalandhra movement was led by Communist Party and other democratic forces. People from all Telugu-speaking regions --- whether they be of the coastal region under the Madras province or the Telangana region of the erstwhile Nizam\'s Hyderabad or the portions which will fell within the Bombay province --- voiced the demand for a linguistic state for the Telugu people. Scores of people died while fighting for this demand.
 
 The formation of linguistic states was an important democratic step in post-independence India. For people to have a state in which their language could be used in the administration and other walks of life, was an essential condition for democracy. However, the aspirations of the people could not be fulfilled by the bourgeois-landlord policies pursued by successive governments. In every state, there are regions which are backward for historical and socio-political reasons. In Andhra Pradesh, Telangana is one such region. Under the Nizam\'s rule, it was a bastion of feudal landlordism and was, compared to coastal Andhra, backward in educational and infrastructural facilities. The Congress, which ruled Andhra Pradesh till the eighties, did nothing much to tackle the causes of backwardness and to develop the region.
 
 In the late sixties, there was an agitation for a separate Telangana state citing backwardness and discrimination as the main reason. The Congress party, at that time too, got divided on regional lines. After a turbulent and prolonged agitation which continued till 1973, a six-point plan was formulated for the benefit of Telangana and its people. This included certain guarantees about the proportion of jobs in government service for Telangana people and other measures for developing the region. Nearly three decades later, not much progress has been registered in this regard. There is a feeling of neglect and discrimination among the people. The most vocal are the middle classes and educated sections who are now rallying behind the demand for a separate state.
 
 In Andhra Pradesh, Rayalaseema is also a backward area. In every state, there are backward regions, compared to relatively more advanced ones. Instead of tackling the basic problems such as the nature of capitalist development and the lack of planning and balanced utilisation of resources, sections of the bourgeois-landlord classes fight each other for carving out their own share of power and resources.
 
 The demand for new states carved out of existing ones has thus been voiced within the unified linguistic states. This has got a fillip after the recent decision to carve out three new states --- Jharkhand, Chattisgarh and Uttaranchal. The BJP is fully committed to break-up of the existing linguistic states and the formation of small states. Such small states would facilitate having a strong authoritarian centre which can ride roughshod over the states. Unified linguistic states like Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal are in a better position to assert the rights of states and strengthen the federal system. The BJP stand is based on the Hindutva ideology which is inimical to states based on strong linguistic-nationality identities.
 
 The Congress party has no such approach. It is purely guided by opportunist considerations. The demand of the Telangana Congressmen is made primarily out of concern that the new outfit, the Telangana Rashtriya Samiti, does not take away its activists and mass base. The Andhra Pradesh PCC president, Satyanarayana Rao, has gone to the extent of advocating smaller states in order to keep the Telangana Congressmen happy. Faced with mounting demands from Congressmen from places like Vidarbha and Telangana, the Congress president has set up a five-member committee to study the demands and formulate the party\'s stand. Based on past experience, the Congressmen in these regions will back such demands and help the BJP in its overall aim of weakening the states.
 
 Apart from weakening strong states and the federal set-up, the demand for a separate Telangana is diversionary. The acute problems of unemployment, lack of irrigation and education facilities and socio-economic backwardness are all caused by bourgeois-landlord policies which have distorted priorities. These are common problems in varying degrees of people of all regions. Only a united struggle by all sections of the people against government policies and against the cornering of resources by the bourgeois-landlord classes can lay the basis for a balanced and all-round development.
 
 The separate Telangana demand finds a response because of the acute frustration particularly among the younger generation. The naxalite PWG has supported the demand. A section of the intellectuals also support this demand in the hope of better prospects. Only the CPI(M) and the CPI, who have carried forward the legacy of the Vishalandhra movement, have firmly stood by a united Andhra Pradesh. The Telugu Desam has so far resisted this demand.
 
 It is essential to convince the people of Telangana that there are no shortcuts to economic development and social progress. The heroic Telangana armed struggle of the peasantry did more for smashing the feudal oppression because it tackled the root problem. The common struggles and movements which took place in the past decades, should be the basis for emphasising the common bonds. The fight for a better life for the people of Telangana will succeed only through this unity. Immediately, the democratic forces in the state must demand that effective steps be taken to ameliorate the problems being faced by the people in the Telangana region.
 
 The Left forces in Andhra Pradesh have an important responsibility of keeping the unity of all sections of the Telugu-speaking people and to show the hollowness of the demand for a separate state.

by **hypersomniac** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:50 pm

Tha was real good info review Telanganite!

by **Pavan** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:08 pm

There is no point in division of the state into further parts...Telangana, Rayalaseema, Andhra.!! If language is the basis then obviously these are only various dialects of Telugu and if economic development is considered....its only natural that the Coastal areas are more prosperous than the interiors in general, but a closer look..Hyderabad..its right at the centre of Telangana and how can ppl say theres no development. The main hurdle in the developmenmt of Telangana are the Naxalites. Even a murder attempt on Naidu could nor make him vow that he will eliminate Naxalism( is he giving a moral sanction) and i suggest that they also be called Terrorists rather than Naxalatis..for that is what they are. Also being a TD(BJP more importantly) symathiser i have a slogan for Naidu. \"Idi Telugu Desam....Idi Telugu Desam\" do u get that!!

by **coolhyderabadi** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:04 pm

Hey boss this is great stuff from you!!!

by **sajeevarao** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:02 pm

Tipu bai jara soncho apne body ko thukde thukde kar diye tho kya hogaa. Waise hi apne desh ko votonke vaasthe aur unki khudgarzi keliye thode politicians thukde karnepe ade huwe hai oh kya sai baath hai jara sochon. World me kahan bhi ithne problems nahin hai jithne apne India me hain. Religion, Caste, Language, Community, Political, Naxalism, Terrorism... ithne problems hai apne yahan par. Ek ek machar yek yek problem ko apni country me paida kardethe hain.

by **hypersomniac** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:17 pm

If you are so patriotic why dont you do your part in developing telangana region. Its very easy to sit in front of a computer and post messages on a board. Telangana region was often neglected, they have to receive their share of developmental activities or it is bound for separation.

by **JaiTelangana** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:25 am

Basically the problem is money. Money is more in Andhra and obviously they are dominating the political scenario in the state. If you go to telangana regions whereever there is water Andhra people have settled down and buying all land and making there grip in that region both politically and financially and they have a basic feeling that they are superior than telangana people. And water from Godavari in Telangana which has to be used for telangana is diverted to Andhra why is this being done because of the political power from Andhra.
 
 You might be thinking by making a seperate state how it will change everything... There will be a psychological barrier and people from Andhra will think twice before settling in telangana thus most parts of telangana property will be with telangana people. And water and other natural resources of telangana will be used for telangana since it is a seperate political system and the politicians are exclusively responsible for telangana.
 
 Center funds will be used for telangana which are mostly used for Andhra now apart from Hyderabad which is crowded with Andhra people. I have just raised couple of points.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:13 am

Forgive my ignorance, I donot have much knowledge on these issues, but two questions raised out of ur post. Would you take the trouble to answer my queries.
 
 1. You said that Andhraites are settling in telangana regions where there is availability of water. But why are the telanganites selling their cultivable lands to andhraites? AFrom what u said I gather that people who own cultivable farms are generally richer than those owning unarable(?) lands. So why are they selling it? Are the andhraites using their political power to wrest the land from the poor telangana farmer?
 
 2. Do Andhraites really fell superior to telanganites? In India I have heard abt caste system, religion differences and some people claim to be superior based on their caste etc, but I never heard of superiority by virtue of Accent! If this is the case, its time to teach those buggers a lesson. My info is woefull out of date. So please post some sources so that I can be well armed with info when faced by a Andhraite. By sources I mean reports like \"Racist Andhraite denies Telanganite entry into restaurant\"
 or Like \" Race crimes on the rise - Bunch of andhra goons kill telanganites for drinking for their well, in Telangana District\"
 
 Much appreciate it.

by **hypersomniac** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:38 am

You are really looking forward for the race crimes, don\'t you? Cold boolded criminal minds you people have got (most of you).

by ZC » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:39 am

How many of the pro-separate Telangana state are voting to Naidu/TDP who is from Rayalaseema ? and if yes, y are u voting to him/TDP and not TRS ?

by **Pavan** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:07 pm

see ZC there is this goon in ur colony, who of course by virtue of his Rougue acts and strength has acquired a lot of following and has now representing ur constituency in the elections...will u vote for him or the guy in the other colony u know to be pretty good? the reasoning is pretty simple buddy....the last time this Telangana issue was raise to sky heights and got our deal old Chenna Reddy into power...nothing has happened on this front. SO please know that this is an excellent ploy...an excellent market position also in business terms...our state for our people... we all should be living in islands...each island containing only one person!!..this will be the final situation of such a progression...

by ZC » Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:12 pm

i am still scratching my head, will post when i understand ur post Pavan.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:06 am

Did u even bother reading my post before jumpin in with reply?

by **mustt_mustt** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:38 pm

Funny stuff towards the end. Reads like you live in the US. As a good leftie, I couldn\'t be more in agreement with Telenganite on why we should fight different battles and not ones set up the TRS.
 
 For that matter, India is a nation in the making. It\'s still germinating as an idea. The Indian nation-state is not as strong as the Western ones. Our armed forces are very much active in practicing violence on its own citizens, so go figure. We still have very shaky borders, several movements of different hues and colors voicing various demands - nationalism for Nagaland, Kashmir,and Mizoram, Land Reform for Telangana and so on.
 
 Inasmuch as accents, ethnicities,nations, race, and class have real effects, they are also at the same time, constructions by humans to grasp realities.

by **alt3r8** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:04 pm

i say seperating telangana will do no good. we are a state and we shall remain one.. we are soon turning into one of the best states in the country.. we are already the fastest developing state. division will break that and will take atleast 10 to 15 years to recover. moreover, divison means that the resources get divided unequally.. remind urself what happened to bihar.... the fertile lands distribution went haywire and everyone is screaming blue murder. the same thing will probably happen here... i say we all suck up to it and just stay the way we are...

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