Common Civil Code

by ZC » Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:51 pm

Be am Indian first. If religion comes first, please go and live in a Religious state.

by **Momin** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:13 pm

It seems u are an athiest,bcos Relegion comes first and then every thing.

by ZC » Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:46 am

thats for people like you. for people like u, religion comes frist and warn Indian govt against attacking Pak. real a*******. Nation comes first. else go to Bangladesh or Pakistan. Like Sunny deol\'s Hero movie \"people protest against govt and army in India and still we keep quite, what more freedom do u want?\" u a******* go live under Taliban and enjoy ur freedom and sharia or bullshit law. BE AN INDIAN FIRST. A******* celebrate Pak\'s win over India. GOLI MAARO SAALON KO.

by **Andhraite** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:52 am

every true, my friend, i want to start this board before ...but no time ... I\'m INDIAN first. The first thing i love in this world is INDIA !!!
 
 Without the help of the people in india, those attacks in mumbai or hyd or any other place will not take place ... someone must be there, who is cheating his/her motherland ...

by ZC » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:02 pm

and A******* cry that a thousand muslims are killed in Gujarat. Dont expect us to keep quite when u kill 50 Hindus. F****** A******* dont bother abt tens of thousands of Hindus in Kashmir who have been killed. We should do something like what China does in western China. It gives people incentives to settle in west China in order to dilute the muslim population and get rid of radical islam. thats what Narendra Modi did. Good Mr. Modi, displace everyone. keep it up. Learn to live like a minority. like the Hindus or Christians who live like a minority in an Islamic state.

by ZC » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:05 pm

i am not anti-pak or anti-islam. i sure am anti-radical-islam

by **Momin** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:01 pm

U Zc \"B----D\"mind ur language,who is in minority,muslims are nearly 30% of indian population,the fact that due to political reasons census is not done properly.And Muslims ruled India for 1000 years,if muslims ruler would have done what MODI and his supporters are doing (Which is not allowed in Islam),there would not have been a single hindu left,bcos only in 50 years u people could do this things means u only think if they want what they could have done.
 NOTE:I donot want to hurt the sentiments of any HINDU brother,but the people like this ZC want to spoil INDIAN environment.

by **berkut** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:43 pm

momin u said \"It seems u are an athiest,bcos Relegion comes first and then every thing.\"
 
 how is he a atheist?? atheist is some one who doesnt believe in religion !!..
 
 i personally think people should start giving preference to humanity first..and then country..and religion...

by **momin** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:34 pm

hi,bekut,I donot know to which religion u belong,but I am sure about islam,it teaches only humanity and to love all the people irrespective of were they belong.I think u donot know,but if there were any muslim rule any were,it is the responsibilty of the muslim king to safe guard the people of that religion and protect their place of worship.so if every muslim follows his relion,he will be a good citizen,a good human and a good muslim.I think no religion teaches us do be inhuman,thats why I was saying that if u follow ur religion u will be automatically a good human,,citizen etc..

by **berkut** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:19 pm

yes i do agree that all religions teach to be inhuman..i am sure islam does it aswell...
 
 but when you said u would prefer religion over country..it sounded like as if you would do anything even betray ur mother land....and support the enemy just on the basis of religion..
 
 thats why zc was getting so fired up...i am not sure wat u ment though....
 say if a war broke out between india and pakistan... would u fight for india (because its ur mother land )...or would u fight for pakistan (because u share same religion !!) ?
 
 
 
 peace out !

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:35 am

M: Muslim leaders dont allow massacres !! ha ha ha. in the naem of jihad what do u do ? does nay other religion teach people to kill except u guys ? u are blind to the killings in Kashmir ? and did muslims rule India for 1000 yrs ? Go to old Hindu temples and see. Who have destroyed the idols ? who did forcible conversions ? seems u are one amongst those who celebrate the Hindu killings

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:50 am

Anyway, my question is abt civil code. u can marry anyone, divorce when and where u like. reproduce in tons and add to population. Good strategy to imcrease the percentage of muslims. First introduce CCC. then allow there people to have only one child. More muslims, more radicals, considering that the % of radicals in muslim population is fixed. Control yaar. control.

by **berkut** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:03 am

ZC massacres and killings are caused by many people of all the religion.....hindus, muslims, christians every one does it ....so you cant generalise and blame it on the religions..no religion techs to kill people...
 
 uh..i hate religious debates ...i wont post to this topic any more....

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:21 pm

unnessary deviations. sorry. lets discuss CCC and article 370. removal of both.

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:22 pm

O:) i meant implementation of CCC ;-)

and removal of A370 !!

by **tipu** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:00 pm

aa u bas-- u r telling too much,before blaming u open quran and read it urself what it teaches.

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:38 pm

i dont know what is written in Quran. y should i read anyway? i am saying that u be an Indian first and then read Quran. else go and live in Pak or Bangladesh.

by ZC » Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:41 pm

what is written in Quran ? is it written that u can marry any number of times and divorce any number of times ? is it really written ?

by **Tipu** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:35 pm

U ZC Bat---,u r really crossing your limits,India is my motherland,I canot leave if the people like u ask me,my family my fahters and fore fathers all belong to Indian race,hundreds of years ago may be(500)(I thank God,for that),my forefathers,accepted the Islam religion,so we are (By Gods grace Indian Muslims).If any Bas----,who belongs to I donot no any RSS or other millitant organisation asks me to getout of India,I canot keep quite,Hindus like u are sopiling the names of the entire hindu community which was also a peacefull community.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:43 pm

Bravo Tipu, I really wanted to hear that from someone of ur community. The sense of belonging.
 Feels good now.

by **Arch** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:12 am

It was Kargil time. I was visiting India. Had so much of anger for what Pakistan was doing to India. Incidentally,every person does know, i think, atleast one person who hates either the muslims or the hindus in India. I do too. I got to hear a lot more during this period of war. Have several muslim family freinds back in hyderabad and some here and some of them happen to be from Pakistan too. While in India, whenever I came across our soldiers on the outskirts of our city, I would salute them with pride While in hyderabad, I took part in several \'support our army\' gatherings. . One of such gatherings was on Rakhipournima at our home, where there were several military personnel. Many of them were young and innocent and yet determined soldiers, of both the communities, to go fight and lay their lives if needed, so that we can live here with that much of less fear that we may be attacked and occupied.Until that day I had \'maybe, mabe not attitude\' from the muslim community\'s commitment towards India. I was way lot more clearer in my convictions that day that all of us love our country. Just as there are some traitors amongst the Hindus, there will be some amongst the muslims too. at times maybe more, maybe less as is so with any other religion.

by **JustaLittleUnwell** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:25 am

I think we are discussing other issues here. Coming to the common civil code, my views as a secular Indian:
 
 The Indian constitution is agnostic towards religion, and is not against it. It ensures that people are free to practise their religious beliefs. So, as a Hindu, i\'m probably free to marry my cousin sister (as in, dad\'s sister\'s daughter or mom\'s brother\'s daughter), though in some other societies it maybe considered incestuous. Likewise, i\'m free to give special privileges to my first son like lighting my pyre after my death, greater status in the family etc. which may not be perfectly justifiable in a fair system. I\'m probably entitled to show greater respect to a cow, than I would to a fellow human being. These things are allowed since they happen within the confines of a household and are not harmful to the society at large, and religion happens to have a say in these matters. Now do we want the government to come and police the internals of our households? As long as no individual is harmed (like in the case of dowry violence) or shortchanged, people should have the right to manage their personal lives, and imposing a draconian \'Uniform Civil Code\' is an infringement into the private lives of people.
 
 With regard to Muslim Personal Law, I believe there are issues relating to women\'s rights, which I guess our Muslim sisters are competent to address and take it up with their religious elders. Given this, we Hindus don\'t need to interfere with personal laws of other religions.

by **Learner** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:06 pm

Very true, very real, hate comes easy, loving is very tough.
 
 Your thoughts are beautiful and sublime. May your tribe increase, let peace prevail. You are head and shoulders above all.

by ZC » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:02 am

and u support the jamah masjid leaders who warn the govt against attacking Pak !! answer this: is it written in Quran that u can have any no. of wives ? and divorce any no. of times ?

by **Tipu** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:42 am

Hi,ZC,Its not written in Quran that Muslim can marry any number of womens and can divorse any number of times,who told u its entierly in correct.

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