Do Hyderabadis need to know Telugu to live in Hyderabad?

by **deccani** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:33 pm

Hi all! Please answer sincerly that do Hyderabadis need to know Telugu to live in Hyderabad? Now a days this is a hot topic in London. In my opinion it\'s not necessary. What\'s yours?

by **Anu** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:49 pm

Hi Deccani, it\'s not at all necessary that one should know Telugu to live in Hyderabad.

by **hyderabdi** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:56 pm

Hi Anu. I agree with you. I am 24 years old and I do not remember that at any time I spoke Telugu in Hyderabad for any of my work to be done at any place. Instead, our Hyderabadi culture is so good, and I am happy about that, that most of our brothers love to talk in Hyderabadi Urdu, which is the identity of Hyderabadis all round, world, and the only point to distinguish between the, real Hyderabadi and the one who settled down in Hyderabad just within some years.

by **ravi** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:05 pm

Hi, In my opinion you are not a real Hyderabadi if you do not know Hyderabadi typical Urdu. That\'s the difference between us and the people who have come from, Andhra costal areas and settled here. Ravi.

by **lion king** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:03 pm

Hi because of my Central Services, I got the opportunity to learn Hindi. Basically, I don\'t know Telugu. Because of Hindi I never faced any language problem. 99% of citizens respond to Hindi here. In fact, a person who knows only Telugu may face some problem here. I see many migrated northern guys here. That could be the reason for all this.

by **IMRAN** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:51 pm

Of course not. It is HYDER-A-BAD, not entirly TELUGU DESHAM.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:02 pm

Once I was travelling in a bus during rush hour and overheard the conversation between two guys, one Muslim and other Hindu. The muslim guy was talking in Telugu and the Hindu guy was talking in Hindu-Urdu! I thought, Wah, Hyderabad!
 
 
BTW, a minor correction in defining a Typical Hyderabadi. A person need not know URDU to be called Hyderabadi, all he needs to know is a language! Urdu, Hindi, Telugu, English, Hinglish or any language. We understand every language. I say so because I myself can\'t speak URDU. I understand URDU, but can\'t speak it, so is the case with my friends except the old city guys.

by ZC » Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:45 am

You mean people from other states in the palce of Hyderabadis? If I reconstruct should other states\' people know Telugu to live in Hyderabad or should you know Telugu to be called a Hyderabadi?

by **Tappebaz** » Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:15 pm

In my Opinion, this discussion is not on a powerful subject, rather it is of no consequence. So we need not discuss more on this because in any part of the globe if you just utter name of pure and typical Urdu you are reminded of Hhyderabad. That\'s the place from where Urdu had a rebirth in the time of Nizams. These days people who have migrated from the coastal or village areas have taken up the Siasat or political issues and matters. They work only for money and their prestige. They use only that what they know. These nuts don\'t even know to respect the Urdu language or to preseve it.
 
 
Lastly, I can say people who come to Hyderabad should learn Urdu and not vice versa - Hyderabadis learn some bull shit language and those who use it cannot even say where it has come from!!! Am I not right???

by **Ali** » Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:16 pm

hi,every body.I agree with u Tappebaz,infact I like this topic very much,bcos I am living presently in a european country,and here I meet many of the people from all around world,and from different parts of India also.Many donot even know that Urdu is being spoken widely in southern Indian States(specially the part which was ruled my NIZAM,which included Deccan platue,many distircts of karnataka and maharashtra,and some part of Tamil),why to tell about the people of other country,Once I had a discusion with a Tamil guy,actually he wanted to visit hyderabad he was worried about language,bcos he knew hindi and he didnot know telugu,he was asking me can any one understand hini if I tell in Hyderabad(He was think Hyd was like Chennai,were only tamil is spoken),then I told him if he didn\'t know urdu(which is similar to Hindi) then it would have been a problem for him,bcos 70% population of Hyderabad and secendrabad speak only Urdu,then he was surprised.
 The reason why I have written this much,is NOT to hurt the sentiments of the other language people in Hyderabd,but to tell all Hyderabadi people that our identity is with this language,if we lost this then,our original identity is lost.And also Urdu is not a language f any relegion it is completely Indian,born in India.

by **raju** » Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:21 pm

Mr Ali the fact of Hindi being more used in Hyderabad, may not be because of Muslims but because of the presence of the migrated population from north and east. I have a doubt The Telugu population of this city may not even cross 20%
 lets see what happens in future.

by **tipu** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:36 am

zabaan-e-hind hai urduu
 
 
 zabaan-e-hind hai urduu to maathe kii shikan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 [shikan = frown]
 
 
 merii mazaluum urduu terii saa.Nso.n me.n ghuTan kyuu.N hai
 teraa lahajaa mahakataa hai to lafzo.n me.n thakan kyuu.N hai
 agar tuu phuul hai to phuul me.n itanii chubhan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 [mazaluum = oppressed; ghuTan = suffocation]
 [lahajaa = style/manner; thakan = fatigue]
 
 
 ye naanak kii ye Khusro kii dayaa shankar kii bolii hai
 ye diivaalii ye baisaakhii ye iid-ul-fitr holii hai
 magar ye dil kii dha.Dakan aaj kal dil kii jalan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 
 ye naazo.n se palii thii miir ke Gaalib ke aa.Ngan me.n
 jo suuraj ban ke chamakii thii kabhii mahalo.n ke daaman me.n
 vo shah-zaadii zabaano.n kii yahaa.N be-anjuman kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 [be-anjuman = without a gathering/assembly (alone)]
 
 
 muhabbat kaa sabhii elaan kar jaate hai.n mahafil me.n
 ke is ke vaaste jazbaa hai ham-dardii kaa har dil me.n
 magar haq maa.Ngane ke vaqt ye begaanaapan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 [elaan = proclaimation; jazbaa = feeling; ham-dardii = sympathy]
 [begaanaapan = indifference/aloofness]
 
 
 ye doshiizaa jo baazaaro.n se iThalaatii guzaratii thii
 labo.n kii naazukii jis kii gulaabo.n sii bikharatii thii
 jo tahaziibo.n kii sar kii o.Dhanii thii ab kafan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai
 
 [doshiizaa = young girl; naazukii = delicacy; tahaziib = culture/etiquette]
 [o.Dhanii = veil; kafan = shroud]
 
 
 muhabbat kaa agar daavaa hai to is ko bachaao tum
 jo vaadaa kal kiyaa thaa aaj vo vaadaa nibhaao tum
 agar tum raam ho to phir ye raavan kaa chalan kyuu.N hai
 vatan me.n be-vatan kyuu.N hai

by **Ali** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:18 am

Salam,wah,wah bahot khoob Tipu Ustad

by **Tappebaz** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:14 pm

Salam to all
 
 arre bhai yeh tipu koun hai naya chilka?? joh shayari karne lage. humse shyari main panga mat lena ustad pachtaoge!!!!!
 
 na tum galib ho na galib ke bithaje
 tum to ho apni maa baap ki masti ke natije !!!!!!

by **tipu** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 9:36 pm

tappebaz,hum to hai hamare maa baap ki masti ke natije,tum kis ki masti ke natije ho

by **Maayvi Morpheus** » Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:10 pm

gee...its turning ugly. maa baap ko gaali diye bina baat nahi karsakte ho kya tum log?

by **Tipu** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:53 am

Tappebaaz,Maaf karo magar tum aisa jawab diye mai bhi Hyderabad ka hoon khamosh reh nahi saka,is liye aap ko aisa jawab diya,magar bura laga to maaf kardo.Aur next time se khayal karo ki maa baap ko beech mai mat laao.

by **TELUGU-SPEAKER** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:19 am

Rey tappez ... don\'t talk bull-shit, you ass-hole ... what do u think of urself ... what? andhra people worked for their own ... _ u saaleh ... rey, don\'t open ur mouth without having basic knowledge ...
 
 Do u have shame , to go after saying good abt nizam, the bas**** who refused to join with india, instead wished to join with paki\'pigs ...
 
 BTW, hyd(BHAGYANAGAR) was there before & after nizam\'s rule... Telugu was spoken before they invaded & after they left, some here say that not even 20% speak telugu in hyd, what r they talking, go and conduct a survey, i\'m sure 40%to 50% mother-tongue is telugu and more than 80, if not make it 90% can speak telugu(basic, may not be fluent) . For ur information, hyd became famous in the last 4-5 years ... because of our CM ...
 
 And u r going after a stupid language and saying blah-blah ... No one here is interested in listening to ur crap ...
 
 (PLZ, this post is just for tappez... it doesnot mean to hurt other feelings, and moreover moderator,don\'t delete my post ... )

by **Tipu** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:56 pm

Are,telugu speaker,Poore hyderabad walon ku gaaliyan likhra aur bolra ki Tappebaz ku deraon bolke,tum log saale nahi badalte re wo hi adat hai salo nashukre,Nizam ku Galiyaan kion dera re 300 saal jo rule kare tum log ku accha dekha bolke(Us se pahele QUli qutub shah ka doar tha re us mai bhi urdu chalti thi sirf,hyderabad banaye so kaon hai re 200 saal ,Quliqutub shah,us se pahele wahan per patharran the,khali maidan tha),\"meri ek aank Hindu aur doosri Musalman\" bola bolkar,Nizam ku gaaliyan dera.Are yeh CM to JUmma jumma aath din hora aakar,HYderabad Deccan ka naam saari duniya mai kayi saaalon se hai re.potte pahle apne buzrugaon ku gaaliyan dene se pahele Tariq(History padh kar aa),samjah next time se likh ne se pahele dekh samjh ke likh,waise bhi ooper logan jo likhe sahi hi likhe na re,saale tum log ab ab gaon se aake humare ku dam karrain,kaons e gao ka hai re

by **Tappebaz** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:13 pm

Tipu sahab and mor... i apologize for 2 line shyari but i dint mean to hurt some one personally by saying abt ma and baap. i take back my word.
 
 waise telugu speaker, let me clear out ur things and u. of and all first thing tell me from which village have u shifted to hyd? none telugu speaking \'Gardis\' r from hyd.. they all left they agricultural lands and village and shifted to hyd (if not they but they fathers and great grand fathers) and still they do go to village every month or 2 (\'oorr ki eltanuru\'). did u ever read history of south india. and who said nizam invaded bhagyanagar???
 
 ur language and way of speaking in public board shows ur anger of knowing correct and right thing. and speaking of percentages why only 90% u must had written 99%. its ur own property na!!.... there r n number of people in hyd who dont know telugu but hardly 100\'s of people who dont know urdu. if i am not wrong ask ur father or grand parents they had subject (compulsary) urdu in 50 \'s to almost 80\'s and there is not as such for telugu.
 and i dont want to say abt any political leader as this is going too big. if u need it next time i will post it.

by **Ali** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:49 pm

hi,Telugu Speaker,first of all go and read history properly,do not read from the text what u get in your schools,(because they have been altered,and given safron color by the people like you who do not like history in the manner it is.But my friend history is not any thing which u change if u donot like,it is past before and u just need to know it properly).And comming to ur BHAGAYANAGAR,listen the true story,there used to be a Hindu girl named Bhagmati,qutub shah (II),liked that girl and converted her to Muslim and then gave her name HYDERMAHAL,so from there the name HYDERABAD came(Initially before giving that title of HYDERAMAHAL,Qutub shah,himself named the city as Bhagyanagar,so it was not any different country,which was invaded by NIzam,as u so were telling).So Nizam was a very genereous ruler his primeminister was KISHAN PARSHAD,he has done so many things to u people,but instead of being thank ful u people use abusive language,it was really his mistake who didnot recognise faithless people like u.

by **IMRAN** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:54 pm

Abey ..Telgu speaker !!! TU to sara Hyderabad ku sarey Hyderabadi se paanga le ra rey . Abey tu ek ku BOLE ,and c how many hav bcame against u .Ter ku hyderabad aake kitna din hua rey ..kaun sey goan se tu yahan par maarana aagaya rey . abey tera tho sab kuch yeh CM he hain rey jo ..tum logoon.u r telling that this CM has many thing fr hyderabadis , but ill tell u 1 thing ,may be he he has done great things 2 hyderabd ,but he had done nuthing 2 hyderabads. well he has done every thing fr u andhra peopls

by **Agarwal** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:34 pm

Are telugu speaker \"ae uuru da needi,telengana telugu ku different peeru,wacchindi matalab adi urdu to milke wachindi,urdu mast language ra\"nuvvu Hyderabadi kadu ra,neeku urdu radu.Samjha na next time se bola to khata dekh.

by **JustaLittleUnwell** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:57 pm

It is sad to see people quarelling over a non-issue. Personally, I think Hyderabadis (i.e. those who grew up here) are lucky to be familiar with two native languages or is it three (Telugu, Urdu & Hindi)? Most will anyway learn English (btw, i\'m impressed by the extent to which English is spoken here, even among the not-so-affluent people) taking the total to 4, and if they pick up just one other foreign language like German or French, they\'ll have 5 languages to boast of, in their CVs! In these days when the services sector is booming, fluency in languages is a valuable currency, and the Hyderabadis are really privileged that they can speak more languages than the rest of the country. Pls see things in positive light! And I fully agree with MM that any language goes here.

by **IdontDiscriminate** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:37 pm

hi
 when i had seen the discussion topic while browsing through the site i was very much interested and i wanted to take part in it.I am a hyderabadi, so\'s almost everyone in my family.i was born and brought up here and the only time I left hyderabad was after i finished my graduation and went elsewhere to pursue my PG.My mother tongue is telugu...tht\'s what i speak when i am home but otherwise i seldom speak it when i am with my friends or outside.that my friends, i believe, is the beauty of our city.u get to speak in almost any language.u can be a total stranger from elsewhere in the country but u r ensured of being able to communicate with people.and our culture is so different and amazing tht one cant help falling in love with with our city and with the people,US.it is quite unfortunate to see some people fight over petty things and politically incorrect issues.all my life i never come across such ppl in hyderabad.so gentlemen if you claim urselves to be hyderabadis stop whining and keep up the spirit which makes us all proud to be hyderabadis.

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