First medal for our country-A silver!!!

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She tripped during Javelin throw and sprained her Knee and the greek doctors ruled her out of the event (heptathlon). They said she cant walk for one week, but she came back to finish the final event, 800 meters run, and finished it in thrid position with a sprained knee!!!
Btw, she is a hyderabadi

Indian First, Hyderabadi Next !!!!

[Mayavi Morpheus]

^^^ ^^^

[azazel]

ok, but did she win anything? 3rd place boleto Bronze mila kya?

[Mayavi Morpheus]

nahee bubba, third place in one event wonlee. Its a heptathlon and she stood in 11th place out of 33 participated. But its not about the medal, its about the olympic spirit. Inspite of her injury and being ruled out of competition, she competed and finished the race, over took other people while running with a bandaged knee. The effort is commendable, medal or no medal.

[DQ]

The effort is commendable, medal or no medal.

Effort is commendable, true.



But the question after each and every game (Olympic or Asian) raised is with over a billion people can't we produce sportsman who can bring India in the big league ?



What is lacking.



Here I would like to quote Sun Tzu "The Art of War" -- (I do not like quoting this book as I have my very own strong reservation on it, anyway)



"Its disclipine".



We need disclipine in the masses, and that will bring about productive people who are competitive.



We are wasting are youth and resources by using them for political gains.

Keeping them occupied in issues such as (Mandir/Masjid etc.)



We need to nuture talent and encourage sport, education....while keeping our cultural heritage and relegious practices intact.



Instead we encourage, hatred and wasteful behaviour, which deviates from the actual relegion being practised.



To gain political mileage, encouragement is not provided to talent by political affiliation !!!



If talent is recognised and coached.... We will get there



Bas itna sa khwab hain!!

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Agree with you in the general sense. But its not discipline thats lacking, but its infrastructure, training and support thats lacking. You wont produce a phelps or marion jones over night with just discipline (thats what Chinese and Russians do or did). It requires money and a popularity for the sport among the general public. But then its a circle, money comes with popularity, popularity comes with good results, good results come with good training which is dependant on money!

A Wimbledon and a bronze in 1996 has changed the tennis scenario in India, more and more people are playing it and corporates are supporting it for endorsements and with sania mirza it became even more popular. Same happened with a Bronze in weighlifting in 2000, the game got recognition. And hope more money is pumped into shooting as well with the silver and by next olympics we may win a gold. Thats where our strength is, in skill games. Shooting, archery, billiards and chess etc etc.

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Agree with you in the general sense. But its not discipline thats lacking, but its infrastructure, training and support thats lacking. You wont produce a phelps or marion jones over night with just discipline (thats what Chinese and Russians do or did). It requires money and a popularity for the sport among the general public. But then its a circle, money comes with popularity, popularity comes with good results, good results come with good training which is dependant on money!
A Wimbledon and a bronze in 1996 has changed the tennis scenario in India, more and more people are playing it and corporates are supporting it for endorsements and with sania mirza it became even more popular. Same happened with a Bronze in weighlifting in 2000, the game got recognition. And hope more money is pumped into shooting as well with the silver and by next olympics we may win a gold. Thats where our strength is, in skill games. Shooting, archery, billiards and chess etc etc.

And do you think we do not have talented people for all these sports in our country ???



Gymnastics --- Some of the players come form the remotest of places of the country, these people have natural talent and are nutured.

When they say natural talent, its the lifestyles and games that they play, its easier for them to adapt to this sport.



Do you think we do not have such talent.



Where even in the Cities and the educated, girl child is still considered a taboo.

Where casteism is still prevalent, its difficult to nuture this talent.

The official sitting up there, who has to use the funds to nuture this tlaent is looking if he can find someone in his own community. How do you think the best will come forward.



Generation after generations, thier skills and resources are being used (remember well financed) for relegious bigotry. If the same money being spent in spreading hatred is spent in constructive purposes, we will have the best talent come forward!!!

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Earlier Post with gymnastics read china

[Mayavi Morpheus]

mmm... where is the disagreement and what are we arguing about?

Anywhere in my post did I say that Indians dont have the talent for these sports?

[DQ]

Did I in anyway say I am arguing,

But its not discipline thats lacking, but its infrastructure, training and support thats lacking.

We have the money, we have the resources, its just that its being spent in K** seva and Bhajans / Qawwalis on trains.



Instead if redirected will do a service to the country as well as Make Indians proud ???

[CtrlAltDel]

...and parents shud stop sacrificing sporting talents of children in the altar of "higher-education"....which will be possible only if proper infrasturcture/funds for ALL sports (not select few like cricket) are available...wich wont be there unless enuf ppl are available to use them...aaah...a cycle...how do we come out of this...

[akhilis2cool]

no pint discussing the talent..and parent related aspects here...the fault clearly lies IOA...first remove the old sucking bastards frm the top positions....everything else shld come next

[azazel]

dude, the biggest problem is, as CAD pointed out.. lack on infrastructure/ financial backing/motivation .. the talent sure exists but they cant achieve much without proper training, can they? IOC ki baat chodo, even they cant do anything if they dont have any $$ to do it with!

[rock_26iin]

dude, the biggest problem is, as CAD pointed out.. lack on infrastructure/ financial backing/motivation .. the talent sure exists but they cant achieve much without proper training, can they? IOC ki baat chodo, even they cant do anything if they dont have any $$ to do it with!

Hope the IMG facility being set up in Hyd brings about some change

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THE LAST RAY OF HOPE FOR INDIA.



GO ANJU GO.



Best of luck to Anju George.

[malaakpetmasala]

THE LAST RAY OF HOPE FOR INDIA.

GO ANJU GO.

Best of luck to Anju George.

lets hope there is more coming up!

[akhilis2cool]

dude, the biggest problem is, as CAD pointed out.. lack on infrastructure/ financial backing/motivation .. the talent sure exists but they cant achieve much without proper training, can they? IOC ki baat chodo, even they cant do anything if they dont have any $$ to do it with!

Rs. 5 Crore were spent on the preparation of the weight lifting team alone.

[rock_26iin]

dude, the biggest problem is, as CAD pointed out.. lack on infrastructure/ financial backing/motivation .. the talent sure exists but they cant achieve much without proper training, can they? IOC ki baat chodo, even they cant do anything if they dont have any $$ to do it with!

Rs. 5 Crore were spent on the preparation of the weight lifting team alone.

thts some BIG money!!!



Pata nahin India ka kya hoga



the IMG facility looks promising lekin

[akhilis2cool]

as far as i know theres no dearth of talent....even most of the skools today encourage sports....the pblm lies in unearthing the talent and polishing the guys and gals to make them world class. the bastards at state level and natl. level olympic associations only pocket money and do nothing for the sporting youngsters.



isiliye mein bolta hoon pehle woh budhdon ko wahaan se hataao...saale pandhra bees saal se baithe so hai sirf...paise khake mote ho gaye...lekin kaam nahi kare.

[azazel]

wht happened to Anju Bobby George? did she make it?



i see ur point Akhil, its true tht the mismanagement of funds does exist. but still, the overall infrastructure is way below par. If u want athletes capable of competing on the international level, u need to have the necessary training standards too. Who knows, if u remove the buddhas from the State levels, the younger guys may not be good either.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

When I said there is no financial support or infrastructure for sports persons in India, this is what I meant



http://www.hsi.net/article_text/article_0210.html



In 2000 George trained for her country's Olympic trials by jumping from a dirt runway into a mud pit; a synthetic running surface and dry sand were not available in the facility in the southern state of Nagercoil. George landed awkwardly on a clump of mud on one attempt and injured her right ankle. Still ailing days later, she jumped poorly at the trials and failed to make the team for Sydney.



It was a struggle to continue competing. George's $10,000 salary from her job as a customs officer was ample by Indian standards but meager for an athlete who wants to pay for overseas training and travel. Her attempts to secure financial backing were largely futile; she found that most shoe and soft-drink sponsorships in India were already promised to cricket and field hockey players. "When an athlete reaches a certain level in the States, you have one person for your technique, one for your diet, one to arrange your transportation," says George, 27. "In India we do not have a person to hold the phone for you."

[akhilis2cool]

wht happened to Anju Bobby George? did she make it?

she has made it to the finals ...she is at no. 9 ...hope for the best.

the overall infrastructure is way below par. If u want athletes capable of competing on the international level, u need to have the necessary training standards too. Who knows, if u remove the buddhas from the State levels, the younger guys may not be good either.

necessary training standards can only b created when the money is well managed.



i think the removal of the buddaas is long due...nae log kaise kaam karenge yeh to uke aane ke baad he pata chalega.

[azazel]

Best of luck to Anju Bobby George .. baaki sab baat ki baat hai..

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Though the competition is tough!!! Comon Anju GO FOR IT. 1 Billion people backing you. You can make it !!!

1 3293 JONES Marion USA 12 OCT 1975 7.11 7.31

2 2906 LEBEDEVA Tatyana RUS 21 JUL 1976 7.33 7.33

3 1811 JOHNSON Jade GBR 07 JUN 1980 6.72 6.73

4 2942 SIMAGINA Irina RUS 25 MAY 1982 7.27 7.27

5 2898 KOTOVA Tatyana RUS 11 DEC 1976 7.00 7.42

6 3074 KLUFT Carolina SWE 02 FEB 1983 6.97 6.97

7 1094 THOMPSON Bronwyn AUS 29 JAN 1978 6.80 7.00

8 3355 UPSHAW Grace USA 25 SEP 1975 6.84 6.84

9 2314 KASHCHEYEVA Yelena KAZ 17 FEB 1973 6.64 6.76

10 2108 BOBBY GEORGE Anju IND 19 APR 1977 6.71 6.74

11 1897 KAPPLER Bianca GER 08 AUG 1977 6.71 6.71

12 2096 VASZI Tunde HUN 18 APR 1972 6.61 6.86



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[azazel]

Anju Bobby George lucks out at # 6.. only +ve, she broke the National Record..