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as the 'resident expert' (like DQ has titled me), i must say that DQ is right. what he has described is exactly the kind of sex education an average indian boy gets from friends or elders. sex education in schools is pathetic, with the blushing teacher rushing thru the chapter with the students giggling thru out the session.DQ wrote:I am not sure if our resident expert CAD will agree but here is what happens in the name of sex education in our society.
Most women before marriage have very little or no clue about love making or Sex or Safe Sex.
Men, and their uncleted education. The uncle is usually the local goonda, the outspoken member of the community or in very rare cases of the family.
How does he educate?
Among the ways he educates.
1. Discusses or taunts the boy about the size of the Penis.
2. Tells him in what quantity dry fruits need to be eaten to increase the size.
3. Some one whose marriage is approaching in counselled in the following ways
- some cases taken to a prostitute to teach him how to screw.
- Palang tod pan is given
- various stories of what happened on peoples first nights are told, and none of them have had less then 6 rounds.
With all this in mind what happens invariably is nothing less then rape. Making women bleed - scream are considered acts of valor.
talk about elders and education. if you have the guts run a survey, enter every marriage hall and ask the groom if he has purchased condoms.
Grooms in their mid 30s expect one of their married friend to gift them a condom as they are too shy to buy one of their own.
Aplogies if this description has gone graphic but this is the sad reality.


:lol: good one!The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:will any parent teach their childeren about practical sex??
will they make any practical sex b4 their children or with their children??
when innocent children ask their parents about what is "sex" or "vagina" or "pennis" etc will any parent show and teach about them??
an average thinking indian or asian never do that exept soooooo called 21 century guyz/gals... who will do practical sex b4 their children or with their children ??? i think..only 21 century guys and not those guys/gals whose thinking level is 17 century .....
:? krishna had a sister?The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:krishna who sexual attractions towards his own sis??
:D well...if a girl is married to 5 men, there has to be some time-sharing!The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:or a girls gets married with 5 brothers and sleep with every one on their respective dayz??
in hinduism, even gods have some weaknesses. and that shows that premarital sex was not exactly a great sin in ancient hinduism.The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:or women who have sex b4 marriage and give birth to babies??? whom u treat as gods???
do all this happen now? hinduism has evolved beyond ancient rules.The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:with the name of gandrva vivah one can have gud sex with a women and leave her in forests??
one man(god) having many wifes??
shows hindusim accepts alternate sexuality and doesnt prosecute the so called 'deviants'The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:or a god ho is neighter a women nor a man...
sati and dowry are not mentioned anywhere in the religious scriptures. they are mediviel additions and extrapolations. child marriages exists in all major religions - a reflection of the society in those times.The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:"sati" dowry " child marriages" etc ...is this indian culture n traditions??
:lol: looks like u read a lot of RSS/VHP literature and take them seriously too!The Other Side Of U n Me wrote:there is no more indian culture or traditions as such in metros...
soon.....the so called indian culture or tradition is going to end....
hinduism??? is this religion still exits in metros?? even it exists.....how many are following??? how many go to temple or offer prayers at home every day........soon hinduism is also going to end.....as many guyz and girls are converting into christianity.....
the day is not too far when indian culture /traditions/hinduism are going to end for ever.............

krishna had a sister? his elder brother balram was his only surviving sibling. the rest were killed at birth by his mamaji, remember?
looks like u read a lot of RSS/VHP literature and take them seriously too! (ok..that was not a personal abuse, only a light hearted comment)
looks like u dont really know what it is to be a 'hindu'. it is not a structured 'religion' with rules on who is and who isnt a hindu.
an important thng to know is that Atheism (not believing in God) is a recognized philosophy in Hindusim. if a man is born in a hindu family, he is a hindu, whether he prays or not, believes in God or not. hindu culture is nothing but the customs/culture of a certain area and era - not one hindu scripture has codified it as an absolute.
these conversions have been happenning since foreign religions set foot in india and it hasnt affected hindusim in any way. moreover, the conversion of guys and gals u are talking abt isnt such a widely prevelent issue. most of them happen after marriage and its upto the couple to decide what religion they shud follow.
what the hindu fundamentalists are trying to do is to convert hinduism into a dogmatic, rigid, rule-bound. evangelical and structured religion, which it never was, and i feel u too seem to think on the same lines.


in many hindu communities, marrying cousins is allowed. this is true even for muslims.The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:not his own sister........cousin..(i have read some where in a book...and many guyz question me about this issue ...when i support hinduism or indian culture)
kill? u need to see a doctor before u do something u regret. is there a 'Hindu Rule Book' that specifies a dress code? is there an Indian Law that specifies a dress code? what others wear is none of your business.The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:when ever i see girls/guyz wearing skin tights/ transparent dress/minis etc...... having oral sex...kissing etc... at public places..or behaving as if they are living in some europian countries......
i get very angry!!!!!!!!!!... i jus wanna kill them...
aha! i think u are frustrated coz u arent getting any!!!!The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:...even some of my classmates do this...
exactly! if u dont like it dont do it. but what others do in private is not your problem.The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:... grow up!!!!!...
excuse me, having sex has nothing to do with one's religion. are u implying that christians have a mandate to indulge in sex in whatever way one wants?The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:...converted hindus.. these guys/gals act over smart.... i don't think, even the original christians bahave like these fellows..(here i don't mean that all the converted christians are bad.. am seaking about those who act over smart!)
:lol: its just a matter of understanding the religion in the right perspective.The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:...but what ever the questions that i have put about lord shiva/krishna/pandavas are not mine.... these questions are quite often raised by soooooooo called 21 century guyz/gals....so i posted these questions b4 they ask me
.....
i thougt theres none to answer these questions... but u did it!![]()
how? i u are refering to ppl not believing in God or having premarital or oral sex, i have already written abt them...The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:... most of the hindus ...with the name of 21 century are creating nonsense......
they are misusing the "Right to ......religion"
now u have said something valid. yes, many of the conversions happen bcoz of inducements, 'bribes', threats and brainwashing. that is bad and like prostitution of religion. if someone fully understands and accepts another religion, its his/her right but i am dead against the immoral conversions.The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:most of the ppl are converting from hindusim to christianity....its became a fashion for some where as the poor or backward class ppl are made to convert in to christianity by paying some amount or free education in christian schools/colleges etc.. free houses etc...
its bad.... if you really love any realigion... they you can choose it without expecting any thing from that religion.....
:lol: as the Old Jungle Saying goes "The Convert Is More Religious Than the Pope"...but why bother? is it mandatory for them to participate in festivals of other religions?The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:...but these converted chiristians are doing nonsense....
these ppl don't enter into any temples.. with their hindu friends... though other realigion ppl do.... these ppl don't participate... in hindu festivals...even their hindu friends invite them.... where as the true christians actively involve in any function or hindu festival or going to temples......most of these true christians are gud... they don't make much difference....where as the converted christians act over smart...
what do u mean? only christians do these things?The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:these ppl think.. late night parties..having (oral) sex... exposing their skin etc is their culture..... they act as if they born to ______ english _____ people....
:? u mean u want replies only from people who agree with u?The Other Side Of Me n U wrote:if u don't like my post plz.. don't comment


WTF??? HP wrote:And DQ....if "traitor" is something you're used to since grade-1,
WTF??? HP wrote: it surely goes to show the deep-rooted hatred and bias you might have for anyone who doesn't seem to agree with you.
WTF??? HP wrote:Time and again, I've said in this discussion that I don't subscribe to the RSS view except for just one tenet - that of love towards the nation (that doesn't necessarily mean I express my love in the same way they do). And still, just because I see a lacuna in the comments made in public by the celebrities in question, you generalise me along with that group. Now who is spewing hatred here?
WTF??? HP wrote:I called you a traitor because you see nothing wrong in an Indian (on paper) cheering for Pakistan when they beat India. You called it a trivial matter. Sport in itself is a trivial matter and I'm not one who would get over-passionate over it. But someone cheering on India's defeat is an entirely different matter.


u were not around when DQ made that debate was raging Ossie. DQ had supported indian muslims cheering and celebrating when pakistan defeated india. he said it was bcoz of the Global Identity as a Muslim and will not change. balls.OsmaniaBiskit wrote:...We win all 'real' wars and Pakistan wins 'some' matches - we are as proud as any other 'patriot by default', sporting, music, movies preference does not change it....


i know that...but its that small minority that is queering the pitch for the restOsmaniaBiskit wrote:...mind you not all do that, it is still a minority, hard to believe but true...
:lol: yes we have judged him guilty coz he said its not wrong if some indians celebrate and cheer pakisatn's victories over india.OsmaniaBiskit wrote:...But it is difficult to explain anything when you are already judged guilty.

no...u defended the cricket thing and mentioned Global Identity in that contextDQ wrote:...Now your clubbing of both these views is not only nefracious but is an injustice initself.


DQ wrote:And about the cricket match it was a query bought up to draw a parallel. In my view greater damage has been doen to the national fabric by a Particular saffron coloured ideology that has gone ahead and carried out the worst atrocites in free India and been allowed to go scot free.
DQ wrote:If a so called national identity calls for a Muslim to compromise his global Identity (which inturn would mean supporting opression and injustice) that will not happen. But to clear other doubts, no National Identity anywhere in the Globe calls for shunning of the global identity."
But what I am sure of is that if stupid, irresponsible people werent so stupid and irresponsible, diseases like AIDS wouldnt have become a pandemic. Its no wonder the three monotheistic religions prohibit pre-marital sex, and sex outside of marriage. It helps keep such diseases at bay.
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