vrooooom....whats ur fav mode of transport

[akhilis2cool]

does any one know where the last steam engine is being used India. A few weeks back i watched a documentry abt them on NGC. it is sad that one of the greatest inventions of mankind is not being preseved properly.

[black wizard]

hey guys...whats this talk about 'powerbikes' eh??bikes with bhp s of 12,13 anfd 15...guys guys...wake up...if theres gotta be a decent discussion of so called powerbikes try talking abt the real deal..like the ones with 150 bhp and 200bhp..what says you guys????

i dunno whether i qualify to comment on this or no...

i rode the Enfield Thunderbird once and man i totally loved it.

it was jus plain awesome!!!. There is no other way to describe that!

Got a major kick riding that and people on the road were staring at me - guess they were not used to a girl riding these power monsters!!



haven't tried any other power bikes - unless the kinetic honda, marvel and tvs scooty qualify

the new Enfield mobikes suck...



the older ones from the 60's,70's and 80's way way smoother feel.

the sound of those monsters is amazing.

its a pity that the domes of the Enfield mobikes have been changed.

the domes contributed to the sound and the riding pleasure.

plus the unladen weight of the bike has been cut down



Except the Lightning 535 all the other new models suck.



there are some kids out there who just love their shoguns,RX 100's...makes me wanna barf!!!

[azazel]

there are some kids out there who just love their shoguns,RX 100's...makes me wanna barf!!!

whats wrong with that?? wht abt the ones who own Pulsar 180 ??

[Fiddler]

the new Enfield mobikes suck...

... Except the Lightning 535 all the other new models suck.

Dude, I disagree. Sure, the pleasure of riding the older Enfields is something else, but the new ones aren't bad either. The beat is different too, but that's because the stroke has been shortened over the years.



Also, the older bikes were really high-maintenance, something that would be endured (and even enjoyed) only by a total Enfield enthusiast. The Lightning 535, similarly, is also very high-maintenance.



However, newer bikes like the improved (arguably) standard 350, the Machismo and the Thunderbird have one over the older models in terms of pickup, top speed and maintenance. The Thunderbird and Machismo especially, with their new 5-gear, high-speed engines. They've got the standard gear-brake setting, though, which is something that might cause a true Enfield buff to look at them askance...

[JustaLittleUnwell]

I guess this thread would interest me in my present condition :)



Continuing my Karizma vs. Thunderbird dilemma....... from the spec sheets, it appears that both deliver almost identical bhp's (16 vs. 18), but technologically the former seems advanced (digital / microprocessor.....blah blah blah), and i think Karizma's racer bike looks rock (die cast wheels n so on), compared to the legacy looks of machines from the enfield stable. Also, the claimed max speed of 125kmph (Karizma) vs. 100kmph of the Bullets. (dunno if'll touch those speeds :) )



Are there known drawbacks with Karizma due to which it's not worth spending that 20K more? Pls pls........ some one help me, or else I may just live with my Bajaj Cub forever :)

[CtrlAltDel]

Are there known drawbacks with Karizma due to which it's not worth spending that 20K more? Pls pls........ some one help me, or else I may just live with my Bajaj Cub forever

Bajaj Cub to a power bike is quite a leap! Thunderbird is a cruiser wannabe and Karizma is a racer wannabe. I dont know if they can be compared, its just a matter of your preference in features, looks etc.



i dunno abt Karizma's disadvantages, but personally i am not impressed with HH's previous power offering CBZ and this makes me naturally suspicious of Karizma.



anyway, the Cub says u r middle class like me, so y dont u compare the t-bird and karizma on the most 'middle-classy' parameter: fuel efficiency.

At the end of the day, u've gotta pay for the fuel, unless someone else has promised to take care of it!

[Fiddler]

Also, the claimed max speed of 125kmph (Karizma) vs. 100kmph of the Bullets.

Dunno bout the Karizma, but the the T-Bird hits 130, no problem. That's courtesy it's high-speed, 5-gear engine. Personally, I'd feel safer doing that speed on an Enfield, because the weight (175 kgs) makes it more stable than most bikes. Dunno how heavy the Karizma is, but, dude, are you sure you want to ride around on a bike with a name like that?

[JustaLittleUnwell]

The mileges are identical (40kmpl), so are the transmission (5 gears), weight (150kgs for Karizma)............. The T-bird does have an advantage in terms of the stroke length, which could be due to its higher cc.



Now visually presenting my dilemma, this







or this?







*reaches out for a coin to toss*

[azazel]

lemme help u on the toss.. i have the coin from Sholay , n so heads will b Thunderbird n tails, Karizma..



p.s: incase u dun remember, the coin has 1 head

[JustaLittleUnwell]

lemme help u on the toss.. i have the coin from Sholay , n so heads will b Thunderbird n tails, Karizma..

p.s: incase u dun remember, the coin has 1 head

And if it stands vertically Sholay-ishtyle, then I live with my Bajaj Cub?

[gods_gift2_mankind]

hey Justalil...

my friend faced the same dilemma when he was out to buy his bike!

the Karizma or the Thunderbird.



He finally settled for the Thunderbird.... I helped along a lot in the decision....not that I actually know much abt bikes ... but then I went on test drives with him and thought the Thunderbird was really something!

[azazel]

And if it stands vertically Sholay-ishtyle, then I live with my Bajaj Cub?

then, the odds r definitely stacked against Karizma

one suggestion, take a test ride as giftie said..

take which u r comfortable riding.. Bullet's a bit tuff for newbees..

[akhilis2cool]

[akhilis2cool]

hey JLUW

i tried to paste an image of the bullet machismo by giving the url just like u did butit did not work

help me out yaar

[JustaLittleUnwell]

hey Justalil...
my friend faced the same dilemma when he was out to buy his bike!
the Karizma or the Thunderbird.

He finally settled for the Thunderbird.... I helped along a lot in the decision....not that I actually know much abt bikes ... but then I went on test drives with him and thought the Thunderbird was really something!

Thanks for the suggestion, gg2m. Can u let me know why you / your friend felt the T-bird was really something as compared to Karizma? I assume you test-drove both........

hey JLUW
i tried to paste an image of the bullet machismo by giving the url just like u did butit did not work
help me out yaar

LOL. I checked the properties of yr link and what u have inserted is the url of a web page and not a web image. Here's what you wanted:

[akhilis2cool]

LOL. I checked the properties of yr link and what u have inserted is the url of a web page and not a web image. Here's what you wanted

i had tried posting the image url but it didnt work, so i tried posting the site url, but sadly that too didnt work. so i asked u to help me out

[azazel]

Thanks for the suggestion, gg2m. Can u let me know why you / your friend felt the T-bird was really something as compared to Karizma? I assume you test-drove both........

dude.. stop askin Q's n go take a ride!

ull see the difference

[black wizard]

all this bike talk is making me sleepy!

[CtrlAltDel]

Justa-ji, from the pictures of the two bikes the choice is clear...THUNDERBIRD It Is...!!!!



In the picture the Karizma looks like a cousin of LML Adreno...and the name itself seems feminine...not suitable for a macho powerbike! well, maybe i was thinking of Karisma Kapoor...

[akhilis2cool]

MY CHOICE IS THE MACHISMO

[azazel]

MY CHOICE IS THE MACHISMO

i rode my bro's Machismo quite a bit.. n its awesome.. i used to have a lil' problem with the gears n brake opposite to what i was used to in the old bullets.. but now, the gears on left n brake on right makes for a smooth ride but, this is the reason y older eunthusiasts dun like the new models .. i find it an awesome ride, Karizma.. dunno

[gods_gift2_mankind]

In the picture the Karizma looks like a cousin of LML Adreno...and the name itself seems feminine...not suitable for a macho powerbike! well, maybe i was thinking of Karisma Kapoor...

that's the first thing that comes to my head as well!

not like that is any kind of freakish co-incidence or something....guess a lotta other ppl also think the same



n justalil.... no i cant find out from my friend why he liked the thunderbird better, cos he is now in some godforsaken place on his thunerbird....altho i was referring to why i liked it better!



n pls dont ask me y!



jus test ride.....er....test drive.....er....what is the right usage

anyway test whatever the both n u can prolly make up ur mind

[black wizard]

MY CHOICE IS THE MACHISMO

i rode my bro's Machismo quite a bit.. n its awesome.. i used to have a lil' problem with the gears n brake opposite to what i was used to in the old bullets.. but now, the gears on left n brake on right makes for a smooth ride but, this is the reason y older eunthusiasts dun like the new models .. i find it an awesome ride, Karizma.. dunno

well, the older bullets rule! Period.

the newer models DO NOT have the riding pleasure. before the invasion of the 100cc bikes namely the RX 100, the Kawasaki Bajaj 100/125 and the likes...all the older bikes had the gears on the right side and the brake pedal on the left side.



dude i agree that the new bullet is good. but definitely not as good as the older ones!!!



and speakin of the KARIZMA...that bike is fast...u feel the "thrust" every time u shift the gear and twist the throttle



P.S. dunno y i hate the RX 100. but i just do. it sucks!

[CtrlAltDel]

...P.S. dunno y i hate the RX 100. but i just do. it sucks!

me too. i find RX100 tooooo short n i feel funny riding it, tho i am just 5'10" in height.

i luv the KB100 RTZ tho' esp the sexy sound of its revving engine!

[azazel]

i find the stupid sound made by these bikes damn irritating

plus, the Mehdipatnam/Old City riders go totally crazy on them.. safety hazard man !!