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Re: Just my opinion

by parinda » Wed May 31, 2006 7:29 am

KSK wrote:Our Country will break into pieces with all this religion crap,cast crap,reservation crap and finally we will go back to 1857,start a fresh,again break based on religion,cast,language(each and every accent like telugu,telangana,kannada,tulu,etc) may be that will bring peace to everybody, so that we will have n number of countries carved out of india based on every possible way to distinguish each other.




Thats certainly what the bJP and RSS want.
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by DQ back » Wed May 31, 2006 8:16 am

Mano-a-mano HP wrote:DQ...I do agree that these incidents of moral policing are unfortunate and should be condemned.




Full stop. Should be condemned and done with.



Now to pull you out of the line you want to gleefully tread. "Multiplex owners" aha so if its the multiplex owners why has a national party like BJP fallen back and asked Mr Shatru Sinha and Mrs hema to step in.



All it could have done is instruct its cadres to tone down, let the movie run in GujArat. Instead it preferred to back its cadre and twist the story. Goes on to show its more then multiplexers, its the muscle flexers who have this party entangled in its grip.



yes protests do happen in other places and they maybe regional. If they are unconstituonal they must be condemned and if it is debateable it must be denbted and resolved. BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.



"You are with us or against us"



The unadultated sense of power that they gained past the carnage that they can now dictate what they want and if logical thought does not prevail wait until each one of you is branded a traitor or if you are a part of that extreme right wing, you have already concluded that the rest of the nation are traitors.



Dont comeback blaming me for ignoring.



Over the past few years we have debated quite a bit and all this while we have been telling you that this day will come and it has.



I have tried expalining to you about the "traitor" psych, now can you see what proportions it has reached. Now its you watch a movie "you are a traitor."



From where you see the world you still will not see this.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed May 31, 2006 11:22 am

parinda wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:that article ^^^^ u posted and some above it clearly shows that this controversy has no communal angle. why the _ are u bent on creating a hindu-muslim controversy where none exists? are u operating on the orders of yr masters across the border?
I am trying to point to the fact that its not the Multiplex owners but the anti socila elements with in Hindu fundamentalist party BJP which have imposed a ban on the movie in India.
in india? thats news to me! maybe u shud read the regular 'satanic' newspapers more often. in gujarat, BJP goons might be the most vocal but a large section of Gujarat congress also support the ban, esp their youth wing NSUI, which includes some muslim leaders too :roll:



again, this has nothing to do with aamir's religion u paki a$$hole, its abt him not being allowed to voice his opinion.
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by Sharjeel » Wed May 31, 2006 5:54 pm

Baaah! Itte lambe postaan kaiku karte?



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by Arch » Wed May 31, 2006 6:22 pm

Why is Muslim religion coming into picture in the first place in this context? Are you guys Muslims first and then Indians later?



As Indians, why is it that you guys too are not enraged about Aamir Khan and his 'Fanaa' film gang giving a terrorist a place of a hero through this movie?
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by Mano-a-mano HP » Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:01 am

DQ back wrote:Full stop. Should be condemned and done with.

Now to pull you out of the line you want to gleefully tread. "Multiplex owners" aha so if its the multiplex owners why has a national party like BJP fallen back and asked Mr Shatru Sinha and Mrs hema to step in.

All it could have done is instruct its cadres to tone down, let the movie run in GujArat. Instead it preferred to back its cadre and twist the story. Goes on to show its more then multiplexers, its the muscle flexers who have this party entangled in its grip.


Completely agree with you on the line that the BJP's stand on the issue is uncalled for and all the more because they are the party in power. But you're mistaken if you feel that the multiplex owners are being arm-twisted into this imbroglio. There have been umpteen movies that have been in the eye of a storm from different sectors. And never before have theatre owners taken such a step. And mind you, multiplex owners are quite well connected themselves. They command a high level of monetary and political clout. And they would not allow themselves to be controlled without a whimper.

DQ back wrote:yes protests do happen in other places and they maybe regional. If they are unconstituonal they must be condemned and if it is debateable it must be denbted and resolved. BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.


What would you say about the overt state imposed ban on The Da Vinci Code in Punjab, Himachal & a couple of other states? And these states aren't even being ruled by the BJP.

DQ back wrote:The unadultated sense of power that they gained past the carnage that they can now dictate what they want and if logical thought does not prevail wait until each one of you is branded a traitor or if you are a part of that extreme right wing, you have already concluded that the rest of the nation are traitors.


This sense of power that you talk about doesn't arise due to the carnage but due to the fact that the party has a 3/4 majority in the state assembly and does not have a strong opposition. This has made them comfortable in the sense that they need not fear loss of power for the next term atleast and maybe even beyond that. You'll see similar show of strengths whenever a party has gained such a high majority in the house. You had the Indira Gandhi govt. imposing a state of emergency; the Rajiv Gandhi govt. coming out with some atrocious rulings ala the Shah Bano case. Even in state assemblies, such instances are quite frequent. Take the case of the present AP assembly. The govt. has taken political arm-twisting to a new level altogether. Its just that the modus operandi of the BJP in Gujarat is more "In your face" as compared to the other instances I've mentioned here, save probably the imposition of emergency.

DQ back wrote:Over the past few years we have debated quite a bit and all this while we have been telling you that this day will come and it has.


What day are you talking about? Please clarify.

DQ back wrote:I have tried expalining to you about the "traitor" psych, now can you see what proportions it has reached. Now its you watch a movie "you are a traitor."


If you take the word of a few inconsequential party functionaries to be final, the folly is more in your thought process rather than in the situation. Today, they can flex their muscles because they are in power. Would it be the same tomorrow? Aren't you undermining the strength of Indian democracy by presuming these people to be higher than the law itself?

DQ back wrote:From where you see the world you still will not see this.




True. Because I see the world from a much unbiased perspective.
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by DQ » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:18 am

Arch wrote:Why is Muslim religion coming into picture in the first place in this context? Are you guys Muslims first and then Indians later?

As Indians, why is it that you guys too are not enraged about Aamir Khan and his 'Fanaa' film gang giving a terrorist a place of a hero through this movie?




I guess a few posts back HP or CAD have answered this query. There have been quite a few movies in the past dealing with this subject.



If the story line was objectionable it should have been banned all over India. We have a censore board to control as well. We dont need a political party to settle personal scores and curtail freedom of expression.



Proven that ist doing this we need to find answers before they get blatant at this as well, India is staring down this polarised society a gift that these so called RV parties have bought in!!!!
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by DQ » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:49 am

Cant quote and requote HP.



"UNBIASED" huh, Scroll back and look at the steps outlined.



Its increasingly evident that neither will you research nor apply simple logic. "Da vinci code" "Kashmir Pundits" "Osama bin laden" why should all this be discussed when the simple matter of fact is



- Aamir just reiterates what the Superem Court of India has said.



Why is the party there up in arms?

Why is the leadership silent?

Why have they opted to throw Mr Shatru and Ms hema in the fray?



- Aamir reiterates what the supreme court has said

- A filem cleared by the censor board is blanket banned in a state

- People who travel to neighbouring states to watch the movie are branded Drohis "traitors"



Cant you see where this is heading to ? And this is the stand of a national party of prominence?



What they actually did when Aamir raised the issue of rehabilitation, was indulge in violence, stop the screening of his films—Rang De Basanti and now Faana—burn his effigies as well as the hoardings and posters of his films. And then blame him for not listening to their views! Is this the BJP way of starting a dialogue? ?



My dear friend yes others protest on various films and books but dont covertly use the state machienery to make an effect.



- use of state machienery to kill innocents

- in two years time prominent presence in a state and use of this power to impose and revoke bans, let the courts and responsible boards do what they want we will do what we want.

- we will use the secret weapon "traitor" any one who does not concur with our POV is a traitor.



Two years have seen this, lets see where all of us are lead to.



On Da Vinci code there is a beleif angle involved and the call for ban on the movie by the adherents of that relegion is their legitimate right and if thier sensitivity has been taken into consideration there is no harm.

Dont try to muddle this discussion into Da vinci code and other bans, if you prefer to discuss them lets start a thread for that and exchange our POV.



If you accept that the hooliganism in this "Fanaa" issue is uncalled for draw a full stop and unconditonally condemn it, not ah wahan da vinci boycott huwa to humare fanaa ko boycott karne me kya etc etc. that my dear friend is not Unbaised but the pooh holed vision.



Now to its not BJP but the Multiplex owners, ah what a joke read this. if you stand for something have courage to own it, else others have every right to speculate what you maybe doing covertly because you never come out clear on anything.



BJP politicians from Gujarat including MP Harin Pathak and members of the BJP Yuva Morcha, even while listening to these repeated assurances of the actor, went on accusing him of being anti-Gujarat, anti-dam and anti-whatnot! Millions of people who watched the scenes on television must have wondered what was wrong with these gentlemen.

Can't they understand simple sentences spoken in simple English and Hindi? Worse, the BJP spokespersons appeared angry, frustrated and their voices were filled with hate. If they could not be persuaded to listen to simple common sense and logic, what kind of image of the BJP were they projecting?



Simple Moral police, a strong hold in GujArat, let our guru "Mod anna" rule and we will turn India into the same else we are contend with Gujarat a country within a country.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:00 am

Totally offtopic, but I am sad to anounce that we wont be having any more discussions with parinda.



Police shot dead three heavily armed terrorists when they tried to enter the closely guarded Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh headquarters in Nagpur
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by parinda » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:13 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Totally offtopic, but I am sad to anounce that we wont be having any more discussions with parinda.

Police shot dead three heavily armed terrorists when they tried to enter the closely guarded Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh headquarters in Nagpur




Another staged op ,just to divert the attention from RSS's failure to comeup with a concrete anti reservation stand, anywayz I condemn all terrorist organizations be it Let or Hindutva organization RSS.



P.S I dont want any discussion with you either.
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by Arch » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:59 am

DQ wrote:
Arch wrote:Why is Muslim religion coming into picture in the first place in this context? Are you guys Muslims first and then Indians later?

As Indians, why is it that you guys too are not enraged about Aamir Khan and his 'Fanaa' film gang giving a terrorist a place of a hero through this movie?


I guess a few posts back HP or CAD have answered this query. There have been quite a few movies in the past dealing with this subject.

If the story line was objectionable it should have been banned all over India. We have a censore board to control as well. We dont need a political party to settle personal scores and curtail freedom of expression.

Proven that ist doing this we need to find answers before they get blatant at this as well, India is staring down this polarised society a gift that these so called RV parties have bought in!!!!




As I said, I do not believe that aamir and co shud epitomize a terrorist. So I said I will not see the movie. Yes, I did not like dil se where koirala was a suicide bomber, nor did I like hritik roshans' movie. I found them misplaced on an indian screen, so is fanaa.



When some of the guys here on these DB's keep getting the race card on every thread, it ofcourse pisses me off. Now, how is that crap, my dear DQ !!!!????????? :roll:



unless, ofcourse, if my posts do not belong to this thread, then, yes, you will be right, since the topic is about gujarat and its politics. and I did not have anything to say about that.. so...



oh, btw, in the name of freedom of expression what all can be expressed, DQ? does it stop somewhere?



http://www.fullhyderabad.com/discussion ... hp?t=42291



read that thread posted by cad elsewhere on dutch freedoms. Imagine this in our country amongst our little children! There has to be limits, DQ!! freedoms should come with responsibilities and fanaa and the rest of those movies do not show that.
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by Mano-a-mano HP » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:56 pm

DQ wrote:"UNBIASED" huh, Scroll back and look at the steps outlined.



DQ wrote:Its increasingly evident that neither will you research nor apply simple logic. "Da vinci code" "Kashmir Pundits" "Osama bin laden" why should all this be discussed when the simple matter of fact is


Well...You need help if you felt that I even remotely alluded to Kashmiri Pundits or Osama in this thread. Now, let's come to the matter of fact.

DQ wrote:- Aamir just reiterates what the Superem Court of India has said.

Why is the party there up in arms?
Why is the leadership silent?
Why have they opted to throw Mr Shatru and Ms hema in the fray?


Would help if you put these questions to the party think tank. This is not the forum to get specific and correct answers for these questions.

DQ wrote:- A filem cleared by the censor board is blanket banned in a state


Was there a state government order to ban the film?

DQ wrote:- People who travel to neighbouring states to watch the movie are branded Drohis "traitors"


I've said it earlier and am saying it again. This is wrong and should be condemned. I simply don't understand why you need to bring this up every time you address a post to me. Does it massage your ego that someone who is supposedly a "Modi-bhakt" is condemning something happening in Gujarat?

DQ wrote:Cant you see where this is heading to ? And this is the stand of a national party of prominence?


Where I see this heading to is a situation where the BJP will lose respect within its supporters. Making mountains out of molehills has never taken any party anywhere.

DQ wrote:What they actually did when Aamir raised the issue of rehabilitation, was indulge in violence, stop the screening of his films—Rang De Basanti and now Faana—burn his effigies as well as the hoardings and posters of his films. And then blame him for not listening to their views! Is this the BJP way of starting a dialogue? ?


Again....why are you asking me this question? Did I ever claim to be a member of the party think tank? or for that matter...even a member of the party?

DQ wrote:My dear friend yes others protest on various films and books but dont covertly use the state machienery to make an effect.


Yeah....they overtly threaten bloodshed. And I guess that's acceptable to you.

DQ wrote:- use of state machienery to kill innocents
- in two years time prominent presence in a state and use of this power to impose and revoke bans, let the courts and responsible boards do what they want we will do what we want.


Now who is bringing out of context issues into the discussion?

DQ wrote:- we will use the secret weapon "traitor" any one who does not concur with our POV is a traitor.


Don't you do the same damned thing too? Isn't everyone opposed to your P-O-V a Modi Bhakt in your parlance?

DQ wrote:On Da Vinci code there is a beleif angle involved and the call for ban on the movie by the adherents of that relegion is their legitimate right and if thier sensitivity has been taken into consideration there is no harm.


Let me answer your query in your own words.

DQ wrote:The larger picture is, yes its a movie but is it banned all over India - no.
Then whats so special that the youth wng of a the state party calls for a ban and its banned across the state.


and

DQ wrote:BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.


and

DQ wrote:If the story line was objectionable it should have been banned all over India. We have a censore board to control as well. We dont need a political party to settle personal scores and curtail freedom of expression.


Now tell me....doesn't all this apply to the ban on Da Vinci Code too?

DQ wrote:If you accept that the hooliganism in this "Fanaa" issue is uncalled for draw a full stop and unconditonally condemn it


I've condemned it twice already in this thread. What more do you want me to do? Go kiss Aamir's @$$?

DQ wrote:not ah wahan da vinci boycott huwa to humare fanaa ko boycott karne me kya etc etc. that my dear friend is not Unbaised but the pooh holed vision.


I mentioned the Da Vinci Code because you said this....

DQ wrote:yes protests do happen in other places and they maybe regional. If they are unconstituonal they must be condemned and if it is debateable it must be denbted and resolved. BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.


And Before I said this, I had already condemned the happenings in Gujarat. What gave you the idea that my condemnation was a result of a "pooh-holed vision"?

DQ wrote:Now to its not BJP but the Multiplex owners, ah what a joke read this. if you stand for something have courage to own it, else others have every right to speculate what you maybe doing covertly because you never come out clear on anything.




Both the BJP and the multiplex owners are very open about their stand on this issue. Who is doing what covertly? Mind you, I'm not supporting their stand here - all I'm saying is that they're quite open and vocal about their stand.



Your POV on this has been formed without you knowing both sides of the coin. And thats why you feel that the move by multiplex owners is being forced by government arm-twisting.



Let me give you a brief background of the Narmada situation. A majority of Gujarat goes through a drought year after year as the second largest river in the state, the Sabarmati, has dried out. The Narmada project is supposed to put an end to this misery. And passions on Narmada run quite high due to it being a lifesaver for millions of people in the state.



Now, an insight into the NBA (Narmada Bachao Andolan). If the organisation was concerned only with the rehabilitation part, it would have been different. Actually, that was the case till the mid-90's. But then, she started opposing any development on the project. And thats why she's seen in such a negative light in the state. And when Aamir issued a statement from an NBA forum, it was bound to raise some shackles.
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by Arch » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:45 pm

very well put across, HP. very well put. clear and to the point. a lot of information with good lot of thought provoking points. keep it up :)
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:55 am

Mano-a-mano HP wrote:Now, an insight into the NBA (Narmada Bachao Andolan).




This is sadly true. I was also sympathetic to Medha Patkar before I realized that NBA has become the root of all problem.

In the beginning Medha Patkar was a social worker with an NGO working for the farmers rehabilitation. Slowly she developed contacts with many people and quit the NGO and formed NBA whose sole aim is to oppose any work related to SS Dam - Both rehabilitation and the actual dam work. Recently Arudhoti roy also joined the fray.

Recently I have read an article about NBA written by another social worker who worked for different NGO. According to him, Gujarat Govt. under pressure from SC and NGO's gave the best compensation package to most of the displaced villagers but NBA opposed this tooth and nail. They even resorted to violent means and beat up any rehabilitation officers or NGO's that try to approach villagers directly. Now NBA is just a front organization to fight personal wars of medha patkar and Arundhati roy and it is not concerned with the actual rehabilitation of the affected villagers.



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by DQ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:00 am

Mano-a-mano HP wrote:I've said it earlier and am saying it again. This is wrong and should be condemned. I simply don't understand why you need to bring this up every time you address a post to me. Does it massage your ego that someone who is supposedly a "Modi-bhakt" is condemning something happening in Gujarat?


"MODI-Bhakt" is this what you have named your cult ? Now lets see in your own words, help me in comprehending what your stance is.


trying to put wipers on your vision

MM wrote:havent followed the controversy but AFAIK the movie was not 'banned' in Gujarat. Its the distributors, who are private entities, who decided not to screen the movie in Gujarat. Now Amir Khan opposes Gujarat Govt. stand on Sardar sarovar Dam and in my opinion he is an idiot, but I fully support his right to an opinion. Similarly, I support Gujarat distributors right to not screen the movie as long as the government does not impose a ban on the movie in the state. The distributors are private entities who make profit screening movies and if they are willing to lose profit for their political stand, no one should stop them.


MrWTF wrote:I guess MM has aptly answered that for you.


Aha and Mr Amit Thaker says let Aamir apologies and we will let the movie run. Cant you see what and where you stand.

You may question, how does that support my stand.

Whatever the arguement maybe the vision always drives you in trying to make a point.

MrWTF wrote:Its still a popular vote...isn't it? And its your perception that it was for the "genocide". Another point of view, and mind you that this also finds support among muslims in Gujarat, is that the Modi government is one of the best in the last couple of decades in terms of governance.




Governance ?



Who TF asked you about Modi Governance, simple query why is the party acting so irrationaly and those who support Mr Governance need to step back and think where we are heading to before this ideology annihilates us.



See where you have gone, read this thread carefully and see how far into this vision you are



Ah man MIM comes up with a protest (a right within the system) and they are termed former Razakars and traitors, and the constant unconventional and unconstituonal parlance of BJPs (and the so called RVs) is good governance.



That is where your vision counts.



As far as NBA is concerned I fully understand and back Aamirs comments and also do hold reservation to some of Medha Patkars demand but thats for the courts to decide. In what way is that related to a movie ? banning and burning effigies ?



When you condemn let it be with no reservations. I condemn it but let me point out that Mr Modis governance is the best etc etc etc is plain bullshit.
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by CtrlAltDel » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:58 am

DQ wrote:...MIM comes up with a protest (a right within the system) and they are termed former Razakars and traitors...
thats coz those _ ARE former Razakars. its an undeniable fact. its also a fact that they fought for an independent hyderabad, supported by pakistan. that makes them traitors too. leopards cant change their spots. even now at the first opportunity, they wud jump ship and turn anti-india.



lets come back to gujarat. fanatic or not, modi's governament is well known to be efficient and corruption free. Last year Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (chairperson: Sonia Gandhi) had even called Modi India's Best Chief Minister.



this is what the gujjus have voted for. to think that the intelligent business people like gujaratis wud vote for a purely communal agenda is nonsense.



coming back to Fanaa, its ban is crazy and undemocratic. and so is the ban on Da Vince Code by AP, TN, Goa etc. does it mean these states gunning for independence or committing treason?



abt Medha Patkar, she is the most hated figure in Gujarat bcoz of her stance on the dam. as Congress' Gujarat head Vaghela said yesterday, aamir's only mistake was that he spoke from NBA's platform.



this shows that the Gujarat has nothing to do with religion. tho the common main might hate NBA, he wud not have asked for the ban on Fanaa. its just pure politics goin on in Gujarat.
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by Surprised HP » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:38 pm

DQ wrote:"MODI-Bhakt"............

...................Modis governance is the best etc etc etc is plain bullshit.




Is this guy for real? With every post, he seems to me like an intelligent bot created by commie programmers.
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by kavya » Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:58 am

Surprised HP wrote:
DQ wrote:"MODI-Bhakt"............

...................Modis governance is the best etc etc etc is plain bullshit.


Is this guy for real? With every post, he seems to me like an intelligent bot created by commie programmers.
OMG muslim ppl like him are for real . thats y pakis r able to infiltrate and penetrate indias borders and harm us. :x :x
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by DQ » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:45 am

Commie - Oh now the Indian PM and his committee has turned Commie to.



Excerpts of a report by the PMs committe on GujArat.



Gujarat emerging as polarised state

Source: NDTV. Image Source: NDTV





Sunday, June 4, 2006, New Delhi:



A politically explosive report by the Prime Minister's high level committee says that Gujarat has been communally divided after the post-Godhra riots.

The report, which is scheduled to be submitted in October, says that most cities and towns in the state are uncompromisingly divided into Muslim and Hindu quarters.



Sometimes they even have physical barricades running between them. And Muslims in the state continue to face economic and social discrimination and alienation.



Economic apartheid



"A Hindu can go anywhere. Muslims, however, can only to a few areas to buy things in the locality of Paldi. Also, if a Hindu is purchasing and a Muslim is purchasing, there is a difference of Rs 3000 to 4000 per square yard," said Naved Siddiqui, a local builder.



"Earlier, my shop used to be full of clothes, but after the riots, the Hindus stopped coming to my shop to get their clothes stitched. We only had Hindu customers, as Muslims never get clothes made in a shop," said Yunus, a local tailor.



The premise of the Prime Minister's High Level Committee's report is that the Muslim community in Gujarat has never quite recovered from the 2002 riots.



Assessing the educational, social and economic status of Muslims in the country, the committee said that economic apartheid and ghettoisation are severe problems in Gujarat.



"Ever since the 2002 riots, the polarisation of communities in Gujarat has acquired a physical dimension. There have been campaigns urging a boycott of Muslim shops, establishments and labour by Hindus.



"There have been campaigns one should boycott Muslim shops and establishments and that Muslim labour should not be hired by Hindus," said Prof T K Oommen, Member, Prime Minister's High Level Committee on Muslims.



He is also associated with Gujarat Harmony project and has been visiting Gujarat for the last two years. He feels that there is a deep sense of insecurity among Muslims in the state.



"They are not simply discriminated against in the market situation, their symbols attacked but their very life and limb is in danger. I remember one Muslim woman telling me that she is not very sure whether her 22-year-old son who has gone out for some work will be returning," he added.



Since the riots, the polarisation between the communities has acquired a physical dimension with clear demarcation in residential spaces.



"Ghettoism is totally complete and localities have been divided into Hindu and Muslim localities, which is very sad. This is not only the case in Ahmedabad but in all of Gujarat," said Dr Abusaleh Shariff, Member and Secretary of the Prime Minister's High Level Committee and Chief Economist at NCAER.



"For the Gujarati people, I am sorry to say that Gujarat is still at the risk of political people polarising Hindus and Muslims. I know of families who have left their places and moved to the older city," he added.



- Oh this is able governance Man. Secular India let the dogs go to Pak "traitors them all"!!!!



If there is a little bit of an UNPoohed vision left in you (which some of you seemed to have at first) then see how far you have gone. Looks like a tried and tested method is being used in Gujarat. These were the same policies "Secular Israel had and has" is this psyche being fed to our evolvers.?
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:06 pm

finally a theater owner in Gujarat has found his spine.. :)



Fanaa in Gujarat theater
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by kavya » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:23 pm

DQ wrote:The report, which is scheduled to be submitted in October, says that most cities and towns in the state are uncompromisingly divided into Muslim and Hindu quarters.

Sometimes they even have physical barricades running between them. And Muslims in the state continue to face economic and social discrimination and alienation.

Economic apartheid

"A Hindu can go anywhere. Muslims, however, can only to a few areas to buy things in the locality of Paldi. Also, if a Hindu is purchasing and a Muslim is purchasing, there is a difference of Rs 3000 to 4000 per square yard," said Naved Siddiqui, a local builder.




u bloody hypocrite :x !! in all mozlum countries non-mozlums r treated worse than 2nd class citizens. they got to pay jizzya ( tax) and buy things at higher rates than muslims. they cant vote or do sh1t. muzleems deserve same treatment in places where they r in minority. if u dont like india u r free to get 1-way ticket to arabistan and exercise ur stupid islamic rites/rights ( pun UN-intended ) there. bloody snakes
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by kavya » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:44 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:finally a theater owner in Gujarat has found his spine.. :)




U R a two faced person :? r u against fanaa or for it ?? U say sumthing here and say the contradictory in other threads :x :x
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by smack » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:48 pm

LOLzzzzzzz



CAD n two faced?? That's a mighty first.



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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:06 am

kavya wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:finally a theater owner in Gujarat has found his spine.. :)


U R a two faced person :? r u against fanaa or for it ?? U say sumthing here and say the contradictory in other threads :x :x
:shock: :shock:



wtf?????? :?



when/where the hell did i support the ban on fanaa in gujarat?
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by apologetic kavya » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:15 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:wtf?????? :?

when/where the hell did i support the ban on fanaa in gujarat?




sorri bro :oops: i confused u with that raghead parinda :oops: :oops:

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