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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:43 am

DQ wrote:Torture, Murder, Rape, Genocide is that nature ?
no, thats ^^^ man giving nature a helping hand...
wtf? i no longer care if my posts hurt yr feelings :roll:
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by DQ » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:46 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
DQ wrote:Torture, Murder, Rape, Genocide is that nature ?
no, thats ^^^ man giving nature a helping hand...




So you mean to say the above are a part of nature?
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:49 am

DQ wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:
DQ wrote:Torture, Murder, Rape, Genocide is that nature ?
no, thats ^^^ man giving nature a helping hand...
So you mean to say the above are a part of nature?
:roll: boss, i was being sarcastic.... :roll:
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by malakpetmasala » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:59 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
DQ wrote:Torture, Murder, Rape, Genocide is that nature ?
no, thats ^^^ man giving nature a helping hand...




if they dont, someone else would.



and guruji, good one.
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by azazel » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:48 pm

its a shame man, a blot on humanity to see these horrifying acts being committed world-wide! but, then again, whr does the soln. lie? its not in just bumping off terrorists bcoz tht'll only give rise to more n more of 'em. mebbe we have to look at the crux of the terror problem, which i think is more or less conflicted regions in the world. the govt's have to come together n work for a peaceful solution to each problem. this would require certain sacrifices n maiming of egotism which seems to be a HUGE factor why negotiations always end up failing.



p.s: nature has its own way of maintaining equilibrium n these acts arent one of those.
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by Sharjeel » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:19 pm

I think nature (or whoever) must really be embarassed for creating us humans.
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by malakpetmasala » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:28 am

azazel wrote:its a shame man, a blot on humanity to see these horrifying acts being committed world-wide! but, then again, whr does the soln. lie? its not in just bumping off terrorists bcoz tht'll only give rise to more n more of 'em. mebbe we have to look at the crux of the terror problem, which i think is more or less conflicted regions in the world. the govt's have to come together n work for a peaceful solution to each problem. this would require certain sacrifices n maiming of egotism which seems to be a HUGE factor why negotiations always end up failing.

p.s: nature has its own way of maintaining equilibrium n these acts arent one of those.




i like the way u said nature has its own way of maintaining its equilibrium and this is not one of those.

if u think so, just give it one more thought. I know it is distressing to thing of homiside or genocide as not a part of nature, but it has been happening for ages unknown and it will surely happen for ages to come. agonising fact is that we are a part of it.
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by asli_badmash » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:38 am

azazel wrote:whr does the soln. lie? its not in just bumping off terrorists bcoz tht'll only give rise to more n more of 'em. mebbe we have to look at the crux of the terror problem, which i think is more or less conflicted regions in the world. the govt's have to come together n work for a peaceful solution to each problem. this would require certain sacrifices n maiming of egotism which seems to be a HUGE factor why negotiations always end up failing.
I agree a soution has to be found.. but I dont agree to goverment thinking about peace with terrorist. As far as I am concerned.. the last successful freedom struggle was launched and sustained by the people of South Africa on the Gandhian principle.



The people in palestine started associating terror with freedom struggle. Giving an example to minorty people around the world to take up arms and go fight a war with authority. After that the new word "Jihad" came into existance. Now we have Chechneya, Bosnia, Kashmir and other so called freedom struggles. Maybe the woes of people living in palestine are valid... but do you think the same thing about people in Kashmir.



I agree terrorists have a geniune issue; but terrorism against innocent people is hardly the way to achieve your goals. And I dont think negotiation with terrorist is a good idea. It isnt because if we give in to one demand to stop the terror; new demands will come, there is no end to it. The only way I see is for the terrorist to put down their arms and come to the negotiation table. That the terrorist wont do.. because the moment they lay down their arms they loose their power.



I dont think there would ever be a Gandhi again!



PS: Israel-Palestine on the other hand is a seperate issue. Both sides are at war. A covert and an overt war!
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by Kenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:49 am

malakpetmasala wrote:i like the way u said nature has its own way of maintaining its equilibrium and this is not one of those.
if u think so, just give it one more thought. I know it is distressing to thing of homiside or genocide as not a part of nature, but it has been happening for ages unknown and it will surely happen for ages to come. agonising fact is that we are a part of it.




How true


  • What about trees? They are freely cut down, ravaged and burnt to clear large areas of land. Are these not living things?

  • Seen poultry farms? What's gonna happen to this huge bunch of chickens and whose gonna do it to them? Is this not more terrible than what happened in Russia recently?






So, we have another angle: In your opinion, everything considered, is a human life of more value to the universe than another life!?
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by malakpetmasala » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:11 am

Kenny wrote:
malakpetmasala wrote:i like the way u said nature has its own way of maintaining its equilibrium and this is not one of those.
if u think so, just give it one more thought. I know it is distressing to thing of homiside or genocide as not a part of nature, but it has been happening for ages unknown and it will surely happen for ages to come. agonising fact is that we are a part of it.


How true


  • What about trees? They are freely cut down, ravaged and burnt to clear large areas of land. Are these not living things?

  • Seen poultry farms? What's gonna happen to this huge bunch of chickens and whose gonna do it to them? Is this not more terrible than what happened in Russia recently?



So, we have another angle: In your opinion, everything considered, is a human life of more value to the universe than another life!?




why do u ask questions, u know the answers for?



anyway, felling down trees is dangerous, as a result, we have drought and plants and animals die. but again, the question is why do we clear forests? to accommodate the population growth.

as a consequence, no rains, not much water to drink... so the population starts to perish until an equilibrium is achieved, only those who can manage to have resources survive (survival of the fittest). and they start to breed and over populate until hey reach the maximum and the whole process cycles again. this is about the animal-plant-environment in general. but in the case of humans, the "want" or the basic need is much more than finding food water, shelter and a 'mate', he needs power, he needs freedom, to get this, he fights with others who have it, some times in the name of war, sometimes in the name of terrorism or just homicide. till an equilibrium is achieved, but then again, it would be someone else crying for it from within and the story continues.



comiong to the chickens in the farm, do they another option? they are like the kids in the siege, they can run around, but there is someone more powerful then who will kill them.
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by Kenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:23 am

malakpetmasala wrote:Coming to the chickens in the farm, do they have another option? They are like the kids in the siege, they can run around, but there is someone more powerful then they who will kill them.




You got it.



My point wasn't "Save the chickens!," it was exactly that Image.
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by malakpetmasala » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:28 am

Kenny wrote:
malakpetmasala wrote:Coming to the chickens in the farm, do they have another option? They are like the kids in the siege, they can run around, but there is someone more powerful then they who will kill them.


You got it.

My point wasn't "Save the chickens!," it was exactly that Image.




but whose gonna save Kenny from the Cartman s man slaughter?
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by Kenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:33 am

Professor Chaos.



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by malakpetmasala » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:37 am

Kenny wrote:Professor Chaos.

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would that make u any safer?
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by Kenny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:42 am

heh heh ... good point



I better arm myself.



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by azazel » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:02 pm

shall get back to the discussion in a while.. not in the mood :?





Kenny wrote:Image




so, it was U who stole it.. grrr :evil:



n plz.. no more disgressing.. :roll:
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