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by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:32 am

A US think tank based study has termed the RSS as one of the most dangerous terrorist outfits in the world....an imminent danger to the outside society...



http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/aug/10rss.htm



A United States-based think tank has clubbed the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh with al Qaeda and some other groups as examples of New Religious Movements.



"NRMs can be found in Hinduism (the RSS), Israel (Gush Emunim), Christianity (the US-based Identity Movement) including al Qaeda, a global network " a new Rand study said.



"Sometimes referred to as cults, NRMs have two defining characteristics -- a high degree of tension between the group and its surrounding society and a high degree of control exercised by leaders over their members," the study said.



"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide ,homicideand genocide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."







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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:38 am

Xeno wrote:"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide ,homicideand genocide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."


ROTFLMAO!!! Dude! When you edit the report and insert your own text, you shouldnt provide the links.

This is the actual text.
"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide and homicide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians and Aum Shinrikyo"




No mention of RSS... :lol:



You can read the original RAND document here Link



Looks like some one is trying hard. :P
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:43 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
Xeno wrote:"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide ,homicideand genocide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."


ROTFLMAO!!! Dude! When you edit the report and insert your own text, you shouldnt provide the links.

This is the actual text.
"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide and homicide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians and Aum Shinrikyo"


No mention of RSS... :lol:

You can read the original RAND document here Link

Looks like some one is trying hard. :P




They might have changed the report ,you know http://www.rediff.com is part of teh Hindutava media, its a big fish in the Hindutva media,dubious journalism... :roll:
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by lonewolf » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:44 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Looks like some one is trying hard. :P




Hahaha :lol: This is hilarious!
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by DQ » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:44 am

Xeno wrote:"NRMs can be found in Hinduism (the RSS), Israel (Gush Emunim), Christianity (the US-based Identity Movement) including al Qaeda, a global network " a new Rand study said.

"Sometimes referred to as cults, NRMs have two defining characteristics -- a high degree of tension between the group and its surrounding society and a high degree of control exercised by leaders over their members," the study said.
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NRM, blip. All this while MM propogates it as a Secular Democratic party working for India "So Called RVs" ab ye SCRV jaake NRM hogaye. Hmm.
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:47 am

Xeno wrote:They might have changed the report ,you know http://www.rediff.com is part of teh Hindutava media, its a big fish in the Hindutva media,dubious journalism... :roll:






hahaha... yeah. You cant trust anyone these days... especially the neo-nazi zionist evil west controlled media. They might have edited out RSS.

but hey... waittaming, if they indeed edited out, how did you knwo that they classified RSS as the most dangerous organization in the world :shock: You thought it is ok to ASS-U-me all that just like u ASS-U-med that Ramayana is pornographic?
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by ycr007 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:49 am

lonewolf wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Looks like some one is trying hard. :P


Hahaha :lol: This is hilarious!


Really.......

Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:53 am

ycr007 wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Looks like some one is trying hard. :P


Hahaha :lol: This is hilarious!

Really.......
Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?




Thats right it proves there is authenticity in the repotts go and read the link ,above all its from the Hindutva media...rediff.com
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:57 am

Xeno wrote:
ycr007 wrote:Really.......
Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?


Thats right it proves there is authenticity in the repotts go and read the link ,above all its from the Hindutva media...rediff.com




bwahhahaaaa....
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:59 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
Xeno wrote:
ycr007 wrote:Really.......
Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?


Thats right it proves there is authenticity in the repotts go and read the link ,above all its from the Hindutva media...rediff.com


bwahhahaaaa....




What happened,did you get a pshyciatric attack.. :shock: :shock:
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by ycr007 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:00 am

I can't read them as Rediff is Blocked Here :(

But if what Mayavi says is true and 'Somebody' has added "The RSS" at the end of the Sentence,then it is indeed doubtful that anyone will believe in the authenticity of the "Post" Made here.......
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by lonewolf » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:01 am

ycr007 wrote:Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?




You did not understand the context here :D



Xeno said that the news item had this - Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."



But when you visit the webpage, you see this - Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo. There is no and the RSS. That was the part doctored by our very own Xeno :lol: He was trying very hard indeed.
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by DQ » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:02 am

Do you agree RSS is NRM
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by lonewolf » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:03 am

ycr, here's the article, for your benefit:



US study clubs RSS, al-Qaeda



August 10, 2005 01:26 IST



A United States-based think tank has clubbed the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh with al Qaeda and some other groups as examples of New Religious Movements.



"NRMs can be found in Hinduism (the RSS), Israel (Gush Emunim), Christianity (the US-based Identity Movement) and Islam, including al Qaeda, a global network with a transcendent vision that draws support in the defence of Islam," a new Rand study said.



"Sometimes referred to as cults, NRMs have two defining characteristics -- a high degree of tension between the group and its surrounding society and a high degree of control exercised by leaders over their members," the study said.



"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide and homicide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians and Aum Shinrikyo."



The Rand study suggested that al Qaeda cannot be defeated by force, but only by reaching out to its roots in religion and promoting convergence of Christianity and Islam.
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:04 am

lonewolf wrote:
ycr007 wrote:Just My Two Pence,But if there's No Authenticity in the reports and they have indeed been doctored to include RSS,I don't see what is the Motive Behind it :?


You did not understand the context here :D

Xeno said that the news item had this - Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."

But when you visit the webpage, you see this - Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo. There is no and the RSS. That was the part doctored by our very own Xeno :lol: He was trying very hard indeed.




You are putting it out of context ,read the report as a whole...
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by lonewolf » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:08 am

Xeno wrote:You are putting it out of context ,read the report as a whole...




When did I put it out of context? I pasted the entire report two posts above this one.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:21 am

DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM




they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:

Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:
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by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:26 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:




Is there no peaceful way to defend in your religion other than violence ,since your religion keeps evolving like darwins theory of evolutions,or are your peaceful ways to defend so violent that your religions foremost organization RSS is blacklisted as the most dangerous cult in the world... :?:
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by DQ » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:26 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:




SO RSS is Hinduism which is a NRM?
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Re: Threat to India socitey at large...

by crypt » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:39 am

Xeno wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
Xeno wrote:"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide ,homicideand genocide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians ,Aum Shinrikyo and the RSS."


ROTFLMAO!!! Dude! When you edit the report and insert your own text, you shouldnt provide the links.

This is the actual text.
"While most are not violent, a few have engaged in ritualised acts of mass suicide and homicide. Notable examples include Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians and Aum Shinrikyo"


No mention of RSS... :lol:

You can read the original RAND document here Link

Looks like some one is trying hard. :P


They might have changed the report ,you know http://www.rediff.com is part of teh Hindutava media, its a big fish in the Hindutva media,dubious journalism... :roll:




Xeno's first post was at 8:32 am and MM's reply at 8:38 am...At least for me its incredible that rediff wud have changed the report in those 6 mins...
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:44 am

DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:


SO RSS is Hinduism which is a NRM?




Brilliant conclusion!
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by DQ » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:58 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:


SO RSS is Hinduism which is a NRM?


Brilliant conclusion!




Agree?
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:08 am

DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:


SO RSS is Hinduism which is a NRM?


Brilliant conclusion!


Agree?




ofcourse, hinduism is baad baad baaad I say. Islam is the only solution. Allah-hu-Akbar!
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by Xeno » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:11 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:
Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Do you agree RSS is NRM


they are trying to practice their religion wonlee :wink:
Hinduism is a peaceful religion and if anyone commits voilence in the name of Hinduism, they are not true/good hindus. We are only ordained to 'defend' ourselves when attacked. :evil:


SO RSS is Hinduism which is a NRM?


Brilliant conclusion!


Agree?


ofcourse, hinduism is baad baad baaad I say. Islam is the only solution. Allah-hu-Akbar!




There is no comparision...read my other cow and ox thread...



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Woman being made to sit on a SHiv Lingam to concieve baby,

Lower caste upper caste,

keep counting..
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:13 am

Xeno wrote:There is no comparision...read my other cow and ox thread...

SATI of a Woman,,
Woman being made to sit on a SHiv Lingam to concieve baby,
Lower caste upper caste,
keep counting..




waittamin, these are not practiced by muslims. I said Islam is the only solution. ya know, the final prophet and all...
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