whats happening in this community?

by ss » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:40 pm

it is really surprising me to see some forms which are

just degradin gthe quality that full hyd maintains

stupid forms are also being included

http://www.pakidogs.bravehost.com

what is this? why should we talk about bull shit ISI and others

(GOD! what kind of people are these)

try to main this hyderabad community clean

cc-to

full hyderabad team

i once request full hyd team to take up this matter seriously

(GOD! what kind of people)

by **Der Schakal** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:49 pm

Yeah you are right but this is a public forum.So people can write anything(Well almost anything).

So unless the mods have a problem we cant do anything.I know its kinda degrading but there is nothing much we can do.The main members of the forum tried to block the ads which were kept here but as I said unless the mods have a problem we cant do anything about it.

Wait for the mods to answer your thread.Maybe they have an explanation/answer.

by **Sharjeel** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:21 pm

It is all part of society. You cannot choose what others will do. If you do not like soething, you can only express your dislike, otherwise you will also be counted among the extremists.

This is a public community, like Jackal said, and everyone is entitled to their own epinion (different from opinion, because you can get away with anything on the internet!).

by **fullhyd.com** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:29 pm

Dear SS,

We have removed the thread that you suggested we do. Thanks for pointing it out.

Regards,

fullhyd.com

by **Der Schakal** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:30 pm

Wow that way quick. :shock:

Way to go mods.

by **Sharjeel** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:30 pm

Oh wow! s/he got the Mods to react! :shock:

by **CtrlAltDel** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:34 pm

no wonder my Post Count suddenly plunged down...

by **Der Schakal** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:35 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote::shock: no wonder my Post Count suddenly plunged down...

Oh yeah mine too..... :cry:

by **Reality,,its here.Accept it.** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:07 pm

dq wrote:
Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:1. A society can function and stay at peace when there is no love. You do not need to love your neighbour to have respect for him.

Exactly where I started from. You do not need to love them, but hate begets hate.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:But once you have hatred in your midst there is no way you can escape the eventuality of worse things to follow.

Like war and innocent lives lost. Where will this end ?

Exactly, if we spend our time and resources spreading hate we are only preparing generations to carry on this Hate wave....do we not?

A paki reading pakidogs will formulate another anti india site and the vicious circle grows.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:>[b] Okay, Lets deal with it this way.
Accepted that Islam isnt the uniting factor for pakistan. But I guess a lot of us would like to know what holds that failed nation togeather. You do not need to agree with our assumptions but you do need to have your answers too. Just want to know if you are also disputing the known fact as to why pakistan was formed.??

I do have to agree with you when you say that religion isnt the only factor holding pakistan togeather coz that reason can not explain why Bangladesh came into exsistence or why sindh & balochistan also want to get separated.
We do have to look at other factors than just "the videshi haat" angle..

History of Pakistan, two selfish military rules, rest corrupt govts who fell to civil wars.

Do you call this a nation being held together. Apart from just being funded and maintained by external forces I do not see why this nation exists at all.

We as Secular and Prosperous India itself are slap on the face of a mistaken dream.

A mistaken dream of the likes of Jinnah and the "So called RVs".

Hmmm,, Mayavi agrees with what I have to say ,,and so does DQ , apart from a few minor disagreements which are bound to be there as we are a very diverse group here. So I was just wondering why were we arguing in the first place?:) when everybody is talking about the same points.

Its like the arguement about which is more a dozen or 12 coins....

everybody meaning the same but in different ways.

Finally a summary with what everyone agrees.

> Religion was cited as the only reason for formation of pakistan.

> Religion is no longer the only reason that holds it togeather,, its just one of the many other factors.

> India is definetely a safer and more secure place for muslims to grow and prosper than pakistan.

So here we are back to the discussion mode from an agruementative one.

About a site like 'paki-dogs' spreading hate,, this is a free world and you have all kinds of people trying to sell their wares. The answer to that isnt banning them but by making the gullible people more knowledgable. If you go on banning everything that you consider not good or safe by some fixed standards we will end up being in theocratic society rather than a free democratic society . Its the freedom of the people that ultimately brings peace. Free people dont have to habour hate or resentment towards others.That in a way helps in spreading peace and harmony around.

p/s: [size=12] [b] As I was typing this post , someone told me that the thread had been removed.

I fail to understand the logic that went into making the decision.

I have a few questions for the moderators to think about and answer:

>What was it that you found offensive about the thread? Was it the link that was posted to a particular site or the entire thread?

> Did you bother to go through the whole thread and the various posts on the thread and see if the discussion on it was mature or not?

> Do the moderators think that the members on fhdb do not have the maturity to understand and react to certain kinds of material posted on the boards?

> What matters most on a disscussion board? The view point of one member ( whose posts do not even border on issues that anyone even thinks about in their weirdest dreams) or the worthy discussion that other members had on the particular thread?

> Do you think its fair to the members who actually posted on that thread investing their time and thought rather than just spam about " butts and asses" and get their postes removed?

I do have many more questions , but if the moderators answer to these then I think I can spare my time to ask them for clarifications.

Finally I wish that the moderators do spend sometime over a request before honouring it in a hurry. I wish better judgement prevails and the thread is back where it belongs ,, back on the boards.

p.s to a p.s: There are a whole lot of things you can to do rather than just remove the thread,, like..change the title, deactivate the link, or make the link redirect, or not let it be posted in the first place rather remove it after its been their for while and been discussed about.

by **Reality,,its here.Accept it.** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:09 pm

dq wrote:
Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:1. A society can function and stay at peace when there is no love. You do not need to love your neighbour to have respect for him.

Exactly where I started from. You do not need to love them, but hate begets hate.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:But once you have hatred in your midst there is no way you can escape the eventuality of worse things to follow.

Like war and innocent lives lost. Where will this end ?

Exactly, if we spend our time and resources spreading hate we are only preparing generations to carry on this Hate wave....do we not?

A paki reading pakidogs will formulate another anti india site and the vicious circle grows.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:>[b] Okay, Lets deal with it this way.
Accepted that Islam isnt the uniting factor for pakistan. But I guess a lot of us would like to know what holds that failed nation togeather. You do not need to agree with our assumptions but you do need to have your answers too. Just want to know if you are also disputing the known fact as to why pakistan was formed.??

I do have to agree with you when you say that religion isnt the only factor holding pakistan togeather coz that reason can not explain why Bangladesh came into exsistence or why sindh & balochistan also want to get separated.
We do have to look at other factors than just "the videshi haat" angle..

History of Pakistan, two selfish military rules, rest corrupt govts who fell to civil wars.

Do you call this a nation being held together. Apart from just being funded and maintained by external forces I do not see why this nation exists at all.

We as Secular and Prosperous India itself are slap on the face of a mistaken dream.

A mistaken dream of the likes of Jinnah and the "So called RVs".

Hmmm,, Mayavi agrees with what I have to say ,,and so does DQ , apart from a few minor disagreements which are bound to be there as we are a very diverse group here. So I was just wondering why were we arguing in the first place?:) when everybody is talking about the same points.

Its like the arguement about which is more a dozen or 12 coins....

everybody meaning the same but in different ways.

Finally a summary with what everyone agrees.

> Religion was cited as the only reason for formation of pakistan.

> Religion is no longer the only reason that holds it togeather,, its just one of the many other factors.

> India is definetely a safer and more secure place for muslims to grow and prosper than pakistan.

So here we are back to the discussion mode from an agruementative one.

About a site like 'paki-dogs' spreading hate,, this is a free world and you have all kinds of people trying to sell their wares. The answer to that isnt banning them but by making the gullible people more knowledgable. If you go on banning everything that you consider not good or safe by some fixed standards we will end up being in theocratic society rather than a free democratic society . Its the freedom of the people that ultimately brings peace. Free people dont have to habour hate or resentment towards others.That in a way helps in spreading peace and harmony around.

p/s: As I was typing this post , someone told me that the thread had been removed.
I fail to understand the logic that went into making the decision.
I have a few questions for the moderators to think about and answer:

>What was it that you found offensive about the thread? Was it the link that was posted to a particular site or the entire thread?
> Did you bother to go through the whole thread and the various posts on the thread and see if the discussion on it was mature or not?
> Do the moderators think that the members on fhdb do not have the maturity to understand and react to certain kinds of material posted on the boards?
> What matters most on a disscussion board? The view point of one member ( whose posts do not even border on issues that anyone even thinks about in their weirdest dreams) or the worthy discussion that other members had on the particular thread?
> Do you think its fair to the members who actually posted on that thread investing their time and thought rather than just spam about " butts and asses" and get their postes removed?

I do have many more questions , but if the moderators answer to these then I think I can spare my time to ask them for clarifications.
Finally I wish that the moderators do spend sometime over a request before honouring it in a hurry. I wish better judgement prevails and the thread is back where it belongs ,, back on the boards.

p.s to a p.s: There are a whole lot of things you can to do rather than just remove the thread,, like..change the title, deactivate the link, or make the link redirect, or not let it be posted in the first place rather remove it after its been their for while and been discussed about.

by **Der Schakal** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:10 pm

Whoa you guys are really serious about this. :shock:

by **enigma** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:50 pm

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:
dq wrote:
Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:1. A society can function and stay at peace when there is no love. You do not need to love your neighbour to have respect for him.

Exactly where I started from. You do not need to love them, but hate begets hate.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:But once you have hatred in your midst there is no way you can escape the eventuality of worse things to follow.

Like war and innocent lives lost. Where will this end ?

Exactly, if we spend our time and resources spreading hate we are only preparing generations to carry on this Hate wave....do we not?

A paki reading pakidogs will formulate another anti india site and the vicious circle grows.

Reality,,its here.Accept it. wrote:>[b] Okay, Lets deal with it this way.
Accepted that Islam isnt the uniting factor for pakistan. But I guess a lot of us would like to know what holds that failed nation togeather. You do not need to agree with our assumptions but you do need to have your answers too. Just want to know if you are also disputing the known fact as to why pakistan was formed.??

I do have to agree with you when you say that religion isnt the only factor holding pakistan togeather coz that reason can not explain why Bangladesh came into exsistence or why sindh & balochistan also want to get separated.
We do have to look at other factors than just "the videshi haat" angle..

History of Pakistan, two selfish military rules, rest corrupt govts who fell to civil wars.

Do you call this a nation being held together. Apart from just being funded and maintained by external forces I do not see why this nation exists at all.

We as Secular and Prosperous India itself are slap on the face of a mistaken dream.

A mistaken dream of the likes of Jinnah and the "So called RVs".

Hmmm,, Mayavi agrees with what I have to say ,,and so does DQ , apart from a few minor disagreements which are bound to be there as we are a very diverse group here. So I was just wondering why were we arguing in the first place?:) when everybody is talking about the same points.
Its like the arguement about which is more a dozen or 12 coins.... everybody meaning the same but in different ways.
Finally a summary with what everyone agrees.

> Religion was cited as the only reason for formation of pakistan.
> Religion is no longer the only reason that holds it togeather,, its just one of the many other factors.
> India is definetely a safer and more secure place for muslims to grow and prosper than pakistan.

So here we are back to the discussion mode from an agruementative one.

About a site like 'paki-dogs' spreading hate,, this is a free world and you have all kinds of people trying to sell their wares. The answer to that isnt banning them but by making the gullible people more knowledgable. If you go on banning everything that you consider not good or safe by some fixed standards we will end up being in theocratic society rather than a free democratic society . Its the freedom of the people that ultimately brings peace. Free people dont have to habour hate or resentment towards others.That in a way helps in spreading peace and harmony around.

p/s: As I was typing this post , someone told me that the thread had been removed.
I fail to understand the logic that went into making the decision.
I have a few questions for the moderators to think about and answer:

>What was it that you found offensive about the thread? Was it the link that was posted to a particular site or the entire thread?
> Did you bother to go through the whole thread and the various posts on the thread and see if the discussion on it was mature or not?
> Do the moderators think that the members on fhdb do not have the maturity to understand and react to certain kinds of material posted on the boards?
> What matters most on a disscussion board? The view point of one member ( whose posts do not even border on issues that anyone even thinks about in their weirdest dreams) or the worthy discussion that other members had on the particular thread?
> Do you think its fair to the members who actually posted on that thread investing their time and thought rather than just spam about " butts and asses" and get their postes removed?

I do have many more questions , but if the moderators answer to these then I think I can spare my time to ask them for clarifications.
Finally I wish that the moderators do spend sometime over a request before honouring it in a hurry. I wish better judgement prevails and the thread is back where it belongs ,, back on the boards.

p.s to a p.s: There are a whole lot of things you can to do rather than just remove the thread,, like..change the title, deactivate the link, or make the link redirect, or not let it be posted in the first place rather remove it after its been their for while and been discussed about.

I agree with Reality.......need to give it a serious thought

by **akhilis2cool** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:22 pm

That thread shd. not have been removed. looks like Mr. ss did not care to read what was inside.

It was a serious discussion. just that the name was a bit vulgar......

I wld like to know why the mods acted so late. and wht abt the guy/gsl who posted that tbread?

by **enigma** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:43 pm

This post of mine is not just to point out on this issue which has already suffered at the hands of someone who thinks that our forum is hell bent on degrading the quality of the posts.

The moderators need to take a note of the fact that disussions about any issue controversial or non controversial brings out solutions finally or atleast compels people to think on that particular issue.

So much effort went into the posts which were written by the members on this particular issue. The posts by Reality... , Mayavi or DQ took a lot of effort and thinking on their part. We were on the verge of reaching a general consensus about the issue. Suddenly taking the thread off the boards is detrimental to the concept of healthy discussion.

Reading about this particular issue was really helpful to me to feel what people think. There will be other issues like that coming along all the time so please encourage healthy discussions and dialogoues instead of shutting the doors for ever. This dialogue alerted me and provided me with an insight .

I can only request the mods to think on all the options, and to rethink on why the boards are there in the first place.

by **enigma** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:20 pm

by **enigma** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:29 pm

by **CtrlAltDel** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:52 pm

yes...i really dont understand what the new "ss" was yapping abt and why the mods decided to do away with a good thread...afterall no topic was being discussed there that wud hurt anyone as listed in my sig...

can the mods plz come out n respond?

by **enigma** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:54 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:yes...i really dont understand what the new "ss" was yapping abt and why the mods decided to do away with a good thread...afterall no topic was being discussed there that wud hurt anyone as listed in my sig...

can the mods plz come out n respond?

by **CtrlAltDel** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:00 am

enigma...your fat americans nagged me successfully till i posted my pix...maybe now they can nag the mods too...

by **enigma** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:03 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:enigma...your fat americans nagged me successfully till i posted my pix...maybe now they can nag the mods too...

You got it right CAD. We should stand up for what is right. Lets hope it has some impact on the mods

by **Habitual Perfectionist** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:30 am

I'm late here as usual. And I agree with the others that removing the thread was not a good decision at all. That thread was way better than cursefests atleast.

by **enigma** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:17 am

Habitual Perfectionist wrote:I'm late here as usual. And I agree with the others that removing the thread was not a good decision at all. That thread was way better than cursefests atleast.

We the members on db's look for a healthy dialougue on sensitive and critical issues. On this particular thread the members of different view points were beginning to find common ground. They were sharing respectfully what was their on their mind, even though it was a tough topic or was contrary to current opinion.

The members were sharing ideas leaving room for new ideas and other viewpoints. The rest of them were actively reading as others shared, doing their best to interpret the complete message which the members tried to get across.

We reached a stage where we were working towards increased trust and commitment and focussing on the challenges rather than on flaring the conflict and creating misunderstandings.

It is my request to the mods to restore the thread and instill the confidence amongst the members that their views, thoughts and ideas on this particular issue did not get washed out and buried. The burial of this thread would be synonymous with the burial of the interest shown by the members for healthy discussion on any further topics. It might not reflect immediately but would certainly have an impact later. My request to the Mods is to put it back on the boards and encourage interest and faith on the boards once again.

by **akhilis2cool** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:38 am

Kuch suna mods bhaion?

The regular members demand an explanation

by **enigma** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:04 am

by **enigma** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:07 am

whats happening in this community?

whats happening in this community?

whats really happening?

whats really happening?

Re: whats really happening?

ATTN: MODS

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