who will won the elections?

[visalandhra]

hi friends,

Till now so many members have posted in this topic but i would like to share fresh opinoins.pls contribute.topic is who will won the next coming elections?TDP or Congress?who will have better chances and why?pls discuss their polocies in detail.



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[azazel]

I feel that TD n Naidu garu will b back in power coz what they've achieved in the past few years is somethin that neither the Congress party or even TD themselves have even come close to. True, they have made some bad decisions but nobody's perfect! Also, the Congress has nuthin to stand up on..no legs, no policies..free power to farmers? thats it? what about us lesser mortals then??? Ill b voting for TD again this time.. just so they continue to build up on what they've done so far.. We obviously cant expect them to make rapid-fire progress but still they r a much better choice than the stale Congress..

[CtrlAltDel]

i agree with azazel.



naidu is the only guy in AP politics, who dares to think and plan well into the future, beyond the boundries of next general elections. all the years of congress rule never contributed anything to the state. the only thing that increased under them were communal riots, engineered by factions within themselves.



communist and socialist parties are nothing better than court jesters, serving well to amuse the people with their statements and antics.



i dont mind declaring that my vote is for Naidu this time too (mind u, its not for TDP, but for Naidu).



as far as parliament goes, my choice is vajpayee (not BJP).

[visalandhra]

hello friends,

now congress and TRS joined together how the impact should be is it favourable to TDP or congress?comment

[azazel]

mmm...TRS n Congress together...dun think they will have ne kind of impact , its gonna be a TDP romp all the way...

they're nuthin but losers, so even if they get into a partnership it'll b a futile attempt whcih will ultimately gain em nuthin...once they loose they'll start blaming each other..

[CtrlAltDel]

Already the rumbles have started within congress, from the guys whose seats were given to TRS! this is just a preview of what would happen to this alliance.



A few days ago TRC chief Chandrasekhar Rao abused Naidu in vulgar language at a press conference. That shows the lack of direction and purpose of that cheap bastard.



In case (God forbid) congress comes to power in AP or in India, development wud at once take a backseat. Their first target would be to earn back all the money they lost in these 6-7 years. By the time they earn (or rather steal) back all the money, it'll be too late to save the then crashing economy.



All politicians (incl TDP n BJP) steal money, but now if Congree comes in they'll try to make up for all these lost years. Thats why its safer to re-elect TDP or BJP since they have already had their fill and now can afford to think of development.

[azazel]

All politicians (incl TDP n BJP) steal money, but now if Congree comes in they'll try to make up for all these lost years. Thats why its safer to re-elect TDP or BJP since they have already had their fill and now can afford to think of development.

do u think they'll ever have their fill??

but, still..TD is the best bet we have..unless we organise a revolution, kill all the politicians..n get ME in power!

[visalandhra]

hello firends,

what is the impact on the ppl if Priyanka and Rahul enters in the election campaign and contested in the elections?is there will be a cance to swing the voters to Congress?and is Sonia gandji's nationality is an election issue?pls discuss.

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[oh, well ?]

From his heavily-guarded fortress at Dagdi Chawl in Byculla, mafia don Arun Gawli (51) has declared a ceasefire—for now.



‘‘I am not getting into any trouble with rival gangsters. I don’t even want to name them,’’ said Gawli.



Guarded by around 200 henchmen behind 15-foot walls and steels doors, staying out of trouble has become top priority for Gawli until after the Lok Sabha elections next month. After all, he’s a candidate.



Gawli, named in 12 murders and a specialist in extortion, is national president of the Akhil Bharatiya Sena (ABS), which he formed in 1996. He’s standing for election in the Mumbai South Central constituency.



On Monday, the Bombay High Court dismissed a petition filed on Gawli’s behalf by ABS state president Mahendra Bagwe seeking a week’s notice before the police arrested him on any charges—until after the election.



While throwing out the petition, the judges observed that Indian electoral law would allow Gawli to contest the election even from jail.



But it’s not just Gawli who’s holding a ceasefire. Both resident and overseas gangsters have been using extortion sprees to pour money into the election campaigns of their favoured political parties, according to police. Now, they don’t want a shoot-out to spoil their chances at the ballot box.



‘‘The kind of money going into the campaigns may not necessarily have come from known sources of income,’’ says a crime branch officer conducting investigations into mafia links to election funding.



Chhota Rajan’s younger brother Deepak has already been questioned in this regard.



Politicians and their sympathisers with allegiance to the Dawood Ibrahim gang—Gawli’s arch-rival—also want to avoid crossing swords with Gawli again in case it spoils the election mood.



‘‘The police will step in. It could be embarrassing to more than one gang,’’ remarked a small-time goon from Dongri in south Mumbai, once a Dawood stronghold.

[azazel]

hello firends,
what is the impact on the ppl if Priyanka and Rahul enters in the election campaign and contested in the elections?is there will be a cance to swing the voters to Congress?and is Sonia gandji's nationality is an election issue?pls discuss.
bye

I dont think it'll change the fortunes of the Congress if both the siblings jump on the bandwagon.. Congress, as a political party has got nothing left to make a fight out of the coming elections.. As for the issue of Sonia Gandhi's foreign origin..its the biggest non-issue ever.. I mean, here is a person who wasn't born here but who CHOSE to become an Indian citizen! She is as Indian as you and me who were born here.. and the saddest part is that almost always works against her

[visalandhra]

hello azazel,

I will agree with u in the matter of sonia gandhi but i didn't agree if she became a prime minister of this country.why because if one person came to india,stayed here 5 to 7 years, get a citizen ship and attempting to became a prime minister is not good for our country.If suppose pakistan president Mushraf did the same thing will u accept? in america also president ship is reserved for only to the local ppl.but not for outsiders.eventhough they settled from so many decades.so better not give the higher posts to foreigners.I'm not against sonia but i'm against to giving the higher positions to foreigners.



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[CtrlAltDel]

...As for the issue of Sonia Gandhi's foreign origin..its the biggest non-issue ever.. I mean, here is a person who wasn't born here but who CHOSE to become an Indian citizen! She is as Indian as you and me who were born here..

u r wrong buddy....she retained her Italian citizenship and passport for abt 14 or 15 years after marriage to Rajiv. Only when Rajiv was about to become the PM candidate for Congress was she pressurised into becoming an Indian, since it wont look good if the PM's wife is a foreign citizen. there was no question of "Choosing" to be an Indian in her case.



this does not indicate any love or interest in India. just wearing a saree and speaking halting hindi does not make her an Indian, forget PM.



she is into politics since a few years only and now she's talking of ruling the country! that just shows how low the congress has sunk and how morally bankrupt it has become. i hope the congress is wiped out in the coming elections too.



I entirely agree with our CM Naidu that only the shameless would vote for a foreigner like her.

[Ramya]

For all ye TDP supporters out there,Iam voting for CB Naidu too(this is the first time Iam casting my vote,so excited about it!)

But don't you think that we are overdoing this issue of Sonia Gandhi's "Italiality",I mean what is more important is that she is bull shit as a politician and a leader of a national level party.

I don't see how we can compalin about non Indians not being eligible to stand for elections when Indians are entering politics in other countries all over(Eg:Bobby Jindal,etc)

[visalandhra]

Hello Ramya ji,

I critisised the ppl who r attempting to get higher posts like president,prime minister,army chief etc.but not as a parliament member or the governer of a state.so pls make this point clear.

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[azazel]

hello azazel,
I will agree with u in the matter of sonia gandhi but i didn't agree if she became a prime minister of this country.why because if one person came to india,stayed here 5 to 7 years, get a citizen ship and attempting to became a prime minister is not good for our country.If suppose pakistan president Mushraf did the same thing will u accept? in america also president ship is reserved for only to the local ppl.but not for outsiders.eventhough they settled from so many decades.so better not give the higher posts to foreigners.I'm not against sonia but i'm against to giving the higher positions to foreigners.

bye

Hi dude/dudette..

I dont care if Gen. Musharraf became the PM as long as he becomes an Indian first.. Sonia Gandhi may not be a good leader/politican, infact i think she's bad, but she has got a constitutional right as an Indian to get elected to the post of PM.. I just feel it shouldnt be a case of her foreign birth to become the most prominent Issue for her detractors. dont they have better things to worry about??

[azazel]

u r wrong buddy....she retained her Italian citizenship and passport for abt 14 or 15 years after marriage to Rajiv. Only when Rajiv was about to become the PM candidate for Congress was she pressurised into becoming an Indian, since it wont look good if the PM's wife is a foreign citizen. there was no question of "Choosing" to be an Indian in her case.

OK, i was wrong abt that..thx for correcting me..But, still she is an Indian citizen now, isnt she?

I entirely agree with our CM Naidu that only the shameless would vote for a foreigner like her.

im not gonna vote for Congress because they r totally useless now.. not because their leader is a foreign -born lady, even tho she's uselss too

[CtrlAltDel]

OK, i was wrong abt that..thx for correcting me..But, still she is an Indian citizen now, isnt she?

Yes, as per Indian constitution, she's entitled to assume any political post. But thats coz the founding father's of the country never wud have imagined that such a situation would befall the country, that too thru the Congress!



I vote for a constitutional amendment to plug this loop hole, barring not just people who are born outside india, but people who are Indian citizens for less than 25 years. That also cleanly covers Indians below 25 years since, anyway the constitution bars them from contesting lok sabha elections. Incidentally, this is why Varun Gandhi cannot contest this Lok Sabha election: he is not yet 25.

[azazel]

Im with u on that bro...

but until its done , respect a fellow citizen n her rights...

PEACE

[Ramya]

I vote for a constitutional amendment to plug this loop hole, barring not just people who are born outside india, but people who are Indian citizens for less than 25 years.

While we are on constitutional amendments,why not think about making it compulsory that people entering politics should have a minimum education level,may be something like they should be a graduate(atleast),I know it would be opposed like hell but then wouldn't that atleast ensure that people who head countries and states have some kind of understanding of the states' needs?

There was this recent ruling(by the SC) that people who've got more than 2 children cannot contest Panchayat elections in Himachal Pradesh.How about that now?

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Ramya, education doesnt impart leadership qualities. A good leader need to have common sense and should know whats good for the people/country, neither of which are taught in schools and colleges.

If graduate degree's make good leaders, then Laloo prasad yadav (BA) should've been one heck of a leader.

[Ramya]

Morpheus,when I said education,I meant 'proper' education.Are you really sure that Laloo ever went to a college and that graduation is not a fake one.

But agreed that education doesn't essentially mean leadership,but wouldn't education mean that politicians are now better people to look upto.(Isn't it strange that people who endorse about 'education for all' etc,themselves have never been to school),and when education is made compulsory for politics too,may be we'd have a better crop of politicians 20 years later

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Ramya, by proper education if you mean political science, then I agree partially. I said partially because I dont trust the curriculum to be a balanced one. Whoever writes the text books show their biases so the students who read them will un-doubtedly be influenced by such education. For example if political science graduates of JNU go on to become Prime miniters then in few years India will be a communist state! Infact this has been the major problem with Indian elite men. Almost all elite institutes have been corrupted by the socialist idealogy and have drawn the students towards communism. If you take the members of communist parties of India, most of them are very highly educated and principled people, but their idealogy is flawed.

and when education is made compulsory for politics too,may be we'd have a better crop of politicians 20 years later

That is assuming that today's crop of politicians are not educated. Do you have any statistics on the educational qualifications of parliamentartians? IMO most of them are educated (atleast those that I see on TV). BTW, Shri. Lallu Parishaaad Yaaadav ji is a BA. His political life started in college as a follower of Jaiprakash Narayan!



Ok, I got the statistics on eduational qualification

http://www.parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/stat/edu.htm

[Mayavi Morpheus]

contd.



As you can see from above link, 47% of male members and 43% of female members, that is 246 members of 543 are graduate! 143 PG and 30 doctorate! Only 13 of 543 members are under matriculate.

[Ramya]

and when education is made compulsory for politics too,may be we'd have a better crop of politicians 20 years later

That is assuming that today's crop of politicians are not educated

That isn't not what I meant-I meant politicians who feel that they are responsible for their acts.I guess,it depends on the way one looks at education,when I say education, I expect a person to grow up into a able and level-headed,clear-minded person.But as you said,the type of education they recieve would definitely skew their ideas,but after a certain stage,people grow out of their shells(say around the age of 30-50),

and then withdraw back into the shells later(as they grow older,people aren't ready for new ideas) so assuming that the younger gen comes to play an active role,it's not very difficult to see why change cannot be expected,irrespective of the background they've had.

[Ramya]

Morpheus,with due respect to all those we see on TV,aren't there many many others who we don't see there?

I saw that link but that too represents only a part of the picture(only the Lok Sabha),and on the balance of the cirriculum,can't we have one bunch of people in this big wide country who can take of that with lettin their prejudices comein?





I wanted to talk about this too(though totally irrelevant to what I was saying earlier)-do you think Advani's rath yatra will have an effect at all,I kind of feel that the campaining is just going a bit over the board.