Negative Facts of Hyderabad

[MOIN RIZWAN]

I left Hyderabad 15 years back,and I am settled abroad,like every Indian I want to be proud of my mother land and native place but they are some unusaul events happened in my last three visits to Hyderabad which compels me not be as proud as others .I feel it like a nightmare the experiences which I encoutered,firstly,the rotten administration of home ministry which cannot be fumigate ever,still excisting with the growth of internal parasites which has decayed the system of our community,whoever it may be ,either a traffic cop or from any crime branch,you can be excused in exchange of as least as 20 bugs.
Then comes the private nursing homes which stakes with human lifes by employing newly graduated doctors who lacks of experience and ready to work for them at a cometetive amount of salary . My story starts here ... my wife was admitted as an emergency maternity case due to palcenta rupture two days earlier the due date around 2.00 am as the flow was increasing and the baby was lacking oxygen inside it was supposed to call the duty doctor and operate immediately.... the doctor on duty was still new and joined the nursng home two days before....repeatedly begging them to do the needful....the answer was \" BADE DOCTOR SAAB WILL COME IN THE MORNING AND SEE \" [and their morning starts by 10 am ] it was my first experience to be a father and there wasn\'t any one to guide me,no option left for me then,at last the doctor arrived by half passed nine[9.30 am]and operated the case and I became a father of a baby girl and by the grace of God baby was in good health as conerned the pulse rate and weight every thing was normal,after two months we were ack abroad. Eventually as my daughter grows we parents noticed after three years that she is not adapting the speech ,her vocabulary was limited to a couple of words which every childs starts with [ie;Mama and Daddy]...now the worries has started as my daughter was growing ....I was sugessted to consult a paedriatician[child specialist]who reffered to the child psychologist and where my child was diagnosed as an \'AUSTISTIC\'child. Initially it is diffucult to accept for any father like me to know about his long awaited and blessed child to be having such problem which have never been known generally,but lately I have to realise the fact,certain blood test were done in Germany,started the speech therapy,beaviour therapy and communication which needs a hell of patience for parents,now my daughter is around seven and improving by the grace of Almighty getting in distinction in her school reports ,for all my sufferings throughout the span whome should I curse?... and who will pay for that medical negligence?....obviously such kind of so called doctors who has exploited their profeesion ,a street beggar is more respectful than these tycoons who stakes human lives in hidden way to whom we blindly trust as \" Doctors\"........my pain and sorrows will be extended to me itself,but if any of the doctors get moral from my text and if any would be parents are alarmed by my experiences ,I think my mission is accomplished .

[Sher Khan]

Dear Moin,

I totally share your frustration and hatred towards the flourishing money minting workshops called Nursing Homes, Speciality Hospitals etc (not all ofcourse) and the malicious mechanics inside them called DOCTORS.

The very honour of this dignified position of DOCTOR has been tarnished to pieces mainly by those who value money more than anything as such fail to appreciate the beauty of life and the benigness of the profession.

I can only wish that God restore kindness and humanity once again in this world.

[hard coder]

screw the indian doctor fools, Moin.. They work only for money, and they don\'t even do that well, they are a bunch of idiots... worst in the world.. i am glad you are living abroad now, where everything is way better cya bro

[Indian doctor]

Hey Mr Moin be calm yourself and dont spread enmity against
doctors of India. The basic problem is the politicians and the moneyminded businessmen.
Because they started too many medical colleges in India and created huge unemployment. First these anti-national people have to be destroyed.
Doctors after their hard studies are unable to find a suitable job, especially in states like Andhra, and they are going to rural areas to practise but still the people support the cunning quacks only for various reasons.
Those central govt employees don't treat their hospital staff properly.

[mdr]

hey indian doctor what u are talking may be some doctors good but how good doctors is in india he dont have a time to explain what the feave is and what happens their dont have time because their have to see next person. according to my experiance i have rumatic feaver i went to a big specialist who has an experience of 40 years i dont know much about the feaver so he just wrote some medicien and he told to use that and his assit will help where as is not another doctor but he works their he told to use medicin thus it nothing will happen thus it doctor did not have enough time to explain me how to use medicin because of that i ended up with heart problem this is all because of doctor or else my fate i dont know.

[Dr Mohammed rafiq New delhi]

first mind your words
you people why the hell go out to forign countries to earn the filthy money and comment the indian doctors? first go to any government hospital and spend some time with the interns see how difficult the conditions are see the conditions in UK and US.(govt set up) this is all because selfish money minded nonmedicos like you and your politician friends I hope fullhyderabad will remove your unparlimentary silly wordings promptly.
why that silly moin did not go to a govt hospital he want all that comfort you know?

[Non-medico with a head]

Dr. Rafiq, what has Mr. Moin Khan\'s being abroad got to do with what he has complained of? Where does his earning money abroad come into the picture in this context? Where did you imagine politician friends for Mr. Moin Khan from? Mr. Khan\'s case does not show over-worked interns - it shows hospitals which use unskilled interns without a senior doctor being there round-the-clock to take care of emergencies. I don\'t know on what basis you called Mr. Moin Khan a selfish and money-minded non-medico. I don\'t even believe you are a doctor - some doctors may be money-minded and unethical, but nobody talks this illogically, without understanding the topic and cooking up things.

[MOIN RIZWAN]

I respond to the text of Rafiq who likes to be addressed him self as a \'DR\',I will suggest him to review my text and try to get in your silly brain and understand,as you are too fond of placing a title of \'DR\' before your whatever name,and before putting your nose in Hyderabad matters right from Delhi,you should have think in what way you are going to reflect your self ,never proved by your words in text that you are a doctor,except jelousy towards NRIs and for instance if you are supposed to be a doctor,then posotively it sounds that you are a rejected candidate for abroad services as doctor,as you had attempted to in short to explain about US and UK standards,so let me inform you > Rafiq, doctors of your standard with a basic qualifaction of MBBS are selling vegetables,spreading cheese on burgers in fast food restaurants and washing clothes in automatic laundry machines on the name of \'franchisse\'.So you silly man so called Dr.Rafeeq stop cursing others and concentrate on your career ,no doubt\'GRAPES ARE BITTER AS YOU CANT REACH IT.

[mdr]

hi guys
link about doctors
http://hinduonnet.com/stories/2002051602110500.htm

[Anand]

Here goes my wife (mdr) message in better words, she had severe joint pains at age of 18, and visited different orthopedics, but did not cured her problem, on suggestion of general physician she visited a very experienced and highly reputed doctor, he confirmed that it has rheumatic fever and prescribed to take four penicillin shots(injection) once in every three weeks and directed his assistant(non-medico) to explain the rest!
After marriage when we where planning for kids i.e in US we visited doctor who found that my wife has valve leakage in heart because she did not continue her penicillin shots for rheumatic fever, so called experience and reputed doc in Hyd did not explain clearly or in detail to continue the shots for at least four to five years, can you believe this!, because of this we are in dilemma to have kids or not! though chances of risk is 5-10% but it still it kind of concern since she has to go through a valve repair/replacement surgery some time in her life, every time when we visit hospital we come across mid and old age people in cardiology and it looks so odd to be among them at this age! If this doctor would had taken some time and explained in more details instead rushing for next patient my wife wouldn’t had problem at this young age.

If any doctor is reading this, please take out some time to explain patients about their medical problem instead directing them to assistants.

[MOIN RIZWAN]

Mr.Anand my true feelings towards you both,as you say I wish if any doctor would read your text and try to explain the details instead rushing for another patient,I am sorry brother those so called doctors comes here very often and not to get any moral lesson ,on the contrary they come here and abuse others and disappears .....!

[lucifer in disguise]

I dont understand what Mr.Moin does in a foreign land for his living, i am astonished as to how he knows so well that doctors are selling vegetables, and working in Laundry\'s.... I pity that situation....

well very frankly i know how difficult it is to become a doctor, a person sacrifices a decade of his precios life avoiding all the daily comforts....an dafter after the attainment of this degree, he has to treat ignorant people like moin who cannot value/respect the education/qualification of a doctor...

In countries like US adn opthers you have mentioned you pay a minimum of 100-200 US dollars as medical insurance immaterial as to whether u visit a doctor or not....but when you visit India you dont pay 300 Rs per month for insurance, how do you think a doctor can make his money in India??

first you change by your self and then expect some body else to change,I know there are still scores of people moin .....but i still hope people will change for better and improve there knowledge....

[hard coder]

I am sorry to hear about your case, Anand. Its another case of doctor neglect, like Moin\'s case. There is no excuse for a doctor wrongly prescribing or diagnosing. In the US, a doctor who makes a mistake is fired without any mercy. Of course nobody will do that in India because they are more interesting in saying \'next patient\' than actually looking deeper into the current patient\'s problems and diagnosing rightly.

[GRP]

Hi There,
Some folks like you are missing the whole point. Issue of concern here on this discussion board is about the practice of Doctors in India, Instead some folks here are unnecessarily debating about foreign countries, laundries, vegetables. As for doctors in india, there are good doctors and bad doctors. There are many people who benefitted from good doctors. If you flip the coin, there are many unfortunate people who had to suffer a lot (perhaps lifetime suffering) due to gross negligence/irresponsibility of bad doctors. I\'m from Hyderabad and for some real examples - Hospitals such as Apollo Hospitals, CDR Hospitals, MediNova Hospitals - are BIG TIME SUCKERS. They suck so much of money from unfortunate patients, that it has gone way beyond our imagination.
Hospitals such as these squeeze money even from tragic families. There are many real-time cases where patients have died while in care at these hospitals and these hospitals would release the dead-body only after the families shell out Rs. 50K to Rs. 2 lakhs although the cost of care would have been about Rs. 10K-20K.
Believe it or not, This is a fact that they charge and force people to pay-up or forget the dead body.
What kind of world are we living in....just unimaginable things happen.
Please folks, focus on the issue of doctors but not on frivolous things like abusing people on this discussion board, digressing from the main issue.....

[Dr Kavitha pradhan Orissa (with head)]

Hi Mr non medico wiyhout a head first of all Dr Rafiq tried to answer hard core fellow not to MrMoin I think you are new
unable to understand this page set up.You are really a person without a head.The basic aim of DrRafiq should be to discuss the situatoin not to insult the forigner MrMoin
MrMoin should understand the basic difference between the German set up and the Indian set up.In western countries the politico medical system is not rotton like in India thanks in western countries the people are really with proper head .That is why in UK like countries they give employment to all doctors in national medical set up.Generally you know the nursing homes are headed by money minded nonheady
nonmedicos who gives enormous pressure to the young straightforward entry level doctors .I hope this will enter in to your head strongly.It is clear that a person who has visited only three times his MOTHER????country in a long time will feel more difficult to understand this.

[Dr Ajay nishikant Kholapur]

Hey Mr Moin you are right...some doctors are really dont have the blessings of god....so they are stopping their career with mere MBBS but you know these doctors with so much miseries serve in rural areas of India (loved by the father of my nation not yours)where the conditions are atrocious I am confident to say that they are not that much filthy like you who count dollors not INR

[Dr VKD NAMBIAR from Kerala]

THANK FOR YOUR HEALING WORDS.
I will tell my kerala experience
while I was working as a doctor
for the defence forces in late eightees
the non medical exservice men with their association gave huge pressures for me to issue medicines in proxy names after consulting outside speacialists .They didnt have anything in their mind that this will hurt our feelings and now it is clear in this world everybody is selfish to get maximum benifits with little efforts MrMOIN SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS.

[Private Andhra Doctor]

Dear Anand I am really sorry to say that Indian doctors really have no time both in gov hospitals and private hospitals. Go to a phc see the crowd there and go to a reputed doctors clinic
the best solution is to BAN PRIVATE PRACTISE BY GOVERNMENT DOCTORS My strong condolences to hardcoder

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

I cant say about all doctors, but I can talk about the ones with whom I had horrific experience. One of my cousins broke his leg and we took him to Dr. Ved Prakash at his hospital at Nampally. The hospital has all the trimmings of a modern day hospital; receptionist with computers, in house pharmacy, id cards for patients etc. etc. I was quite happy to find such facilities and my cousin was admitted. Dr. Ved Prakash told us after initial x-rays that he will do some kind of scanning and set the bone. Anyway, it was done the following day and the first follow-up was after 15 days. More x-rays were taken after 15 days and Dr. Prakash told us he needs to put a wedge to set the bone right. We looked at the x-rays and found that the condition of the bone was worse than it was at the time of break. I mean the direction in which the broken bone was. We had spent a lot of money by this time. We took the x-rays to another doctor for his opinion and he told us that the bone is not set properly and it is quite possible that after healing, the patient might, might end up with a little limp! And all the time we were reassured by Dr. Ved Prakash that everything is okay. Later on we found that there are several patients who have been under treatment by Dr. Prakash for years and year. Since broken bones are not life threatening, he seems to prolong the treatment as long as he could. Each visit will cost you around Rs500/ plus you must buy everything from the in-house pharmacy, which is at least 15% more than market price. Mercifully, my cousin was operated upon by Dr. Sree Ramulu and he is back on his feet and playing soccer again. Where we have devils like Dr. Ved Prakash, we have some very good doctors who are compassionate, true to their profession and have a human heart. Dr. Sree Ramulu is one of them. God Bless him and for Dr. Ved Prakash, I hope he crawls for the rest of his life.

[Dr George KUTTY from ernakulam]

this is Dr george kutty from I was a sincere doctor from kerala i being thinking a true christian got and took opportunity to work in a missionary hospital it was administered by sisters of some congregation initially they were so sweet in their talks and everything as the time passed even though they are non medicoes they interfered in each and every matters even prescribing patient friendly they wont agree for anything they went on interfering in each and everything. finally god promise i am telling you that sexually started exployting me by way of calling in odd hour of night posing themselves as serious patients with urgent probloms only aim of them were sex not genuine medical benifits to poor rural patients my main aim is to tell mr moin that nonmedicoes in different forms interfere in to young doctors and finally put the blame on doctors society

[HAO]

Dear Kulcha Hyderabadi & Others

Its really cool to see a board going on about these blood sucking leeches that go by the name of Medical Doctors in India.I really believe that even executioners are better professionals than these guys as atleast they are doing it to support the law.
I have also faced the callous nature of these quacks when my mother had to to be treated by these goons.

I believe the American system is treating them really well by first making them almost repeat the medicine again.
May god protect all of us from any situation which takes us to these SOB\'S.

[RAMA]

Why blame Indian Doctors cya bro? It happends all over the world. Yes, even including the USA. The degree to which it happends is less but the same thing happends here. I have seen many times that it happends personally. It is very limited thinking when you say Indian Doctors. Just address it as Doctors worldwide.

[Non-medico with a head]

It\'s very enlightening to hear from such a level-headed person as you, Dr. Kavitha Pradhan (or whoever you are). Dr. Rafiq (or whoever he is) tried to answer hard coder, is it? Obviously from that message of hard coder he could make out that hard coder lives in a foreign country, that he is a selfish money-minded non-medico and that he has politician friends. It\'s very encouraging to know that people with heads like yours are doctors curing patients in India. I just hope English wasn\'t the medium in which you studied medicine, since we just saw how good you were at interpreting messages here. If you want to make a point, make it as a point - there\'s no need to make this board a mud-slinging match.

[Vigna]

Hey Guys, I joined this interesting topic late. I agree with Moin and all others. But I would like to bring to all you attention of the doctors\' filthy deeds.
You go to any clinic, they give you injection with a used syringe and needle. In these days of rampant AIDS fear and oher dangerous diseases like Hepatitis, they dont care about the patients. They force injections because they have created ahype that injections only treats the diseases. And they earn more when they give injections. I pointed out to many doctors in the twin cities and outskirts, but they asked me to mind my own business. In this way I fear how many new patients are getting the AIDs at the Doctors\' clinics. It is high time something is done. It is like but one get one free. Take an injection and get AIDS free.
People should be mase aware of this danger.

[Vigna]

I also request fullhyderabad webmaster to increase the size of the message posting TEXT box, so we can see our message as whole and dont commit spelling or gammar mistakes.