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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:30 am

dq wrote:YOu quote an extremist before calling upon people to forget Iraq ? Why should Iraq be forgotten ? So the atrocities in Iraq are justified and should be forgotten, because there is some extremist mullah in pakistan ?
:shock: oye....wat i meant was that we need to pay more attention to danger closer home...just as rabbithole poinyed out. i never said that whats happening in Iraq is justified...
dq wrote:If your concern was only Hyderabad, why do you start of with forget Iraq ?
coz Hyderabad is my home. i was born here and i want to live the end of my life here. thats why any danger to hyderabad is danger to me. like it or not my city and country are the first priority for me, not Iraq.
dq wrote:Are you suggesting that Democratic Independant India legitimsed the Razakar movement ?
no...those followers of the Razakar movement who escaped and blended back into society started the Majlis. I dont think their ideology has changed deep inside. people close to me had suffered in their hands. i know what animals they can be.
dq wrote:If a hullaboo is not raised, another 13 people can get killed in encounters.
again...how do u know these guys are innocent? i prefer to believe the cops. i hate to say it but i wud also believe our Home Minister *...blech...* who promised an impartial enquiry. Just as Sangh Pariwar is guilty of one extreme of arresting innocents, Congress is also guilty of the other extreme of doing nothing while taking care not to hurt minority feelings. if such a party has supported the role of the police, there is something to it.
dq wrote:To date the police have not come up with any solid proof that the two people killed in encounters were linked to LET.
the news item u quoted havent proved the men's innocence either. whatever the police has found is trashed by the men's families and of corz the Majlis. its the police's word againt them.
dq wrote:Activities such as these my friend have made the Majalis stronger, cause thats the only party who atleast are listening or taking up the cause of the people.
if they are really interested in taking up the causes of their people, wud the conditions of the most members of the community who support them be so backward? they are only interested in whipping passions over anything to score political points. the leadership just enriches themselves from various colleges, hospitals, charities etc.
dq wrote:If parties like Majalis too do not give these people a hearing and a base to voice thier concerns then we are opening larger recruitment grounds for organisations such as LET.
this is sad but true.
dq wrote:True but all your above statements do not prove that the arrested are guilty, and the family members of the people concerned have the right to seek a reply.
...and the police wud provide it. they have only been arrested on basis of some evidences that are thot to have been enuf by the police.
dq wrote:Addressing at the grassroots level does not mean, elminating every body you suspect ?
no, it doesnt...but it also does not mean condemning and demoralizing the cops who pick up some people, who unfortunately happen to belong to a ceratin community.
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:46 am

asli_badmash wrote:I want to comment on the CAD FACTS... I would call them opinions rather than facts.
:D...ok!
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Fact 1: LeT and its likes are terrorist organizations run unfortunately by muslims
... run by Muslims?? What kind of Muslims?? Not all Muslims!!
i really dont know what subsect they belong to....in fact i am no aware of subsects in Islam except for Shia, Sunni and thru these DBs, Mehdvi. when i said these terrorist groups were populated by muslims i did not intend to say that the entire community backs them. I just happen to give some data about the membership of these groups.
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Fact 2: It follows that they only recruit financially backward or fanatic muslims for their cause.
Not true... people who blew up the twin towers were educated and well to do families.
i agree. this slipped my mind.
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Fact 3: this makes it impossible for ppl of other religions to get arrested for associating with them....coz they generally aren't.
I hope so... I also read...
......Enquiry - During inquiry it was found that some local Nepali people had helped the hijackers smuggle weapons on board
........Enquiry - Inquiry revealed non muslim people who were involved in the bombing operation though at a smaller scale.
yes many locals were used. do u really think those locals were hard core members of some Islamic Militant outfit like LeT or AQ? seems more like some local thugs who were paid for their job. u can find them anywhere in any community.
asli_badmash wrote:Money and power is the religion of the Terrorists. They aren't Muslims/ Christians/ Jews/ Hindus.
cudnt agree more....
asli_badmash wrote:An enquiry in Gujrat in no ways means that the police officials in all states have suddenly developed a conscience.
cops n conscience? :lol: naah...it just means that they cant take it for granted that they will be saved by their political masters. Judiciary and Opposition are enuf to ensure them sleepless nights. which brings to mind my original post: even a minority friendly congress is backing the cops in the latest arrests. that does say something, doesnt it? everything a politician does is calculated to milk maximum benefits. how wud these arrests benefit the congress, esp when its in danger of losing their support over this issue...??? this is why i believe the Cops' version.
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by asli_badmash » Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:22 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:i really dont know what subsect they belong to....in fact i am no aware of subsects in Islam except for Shia, Sunni and thru these DBs, Mehdvi.
For the most recent (major) religion of the world. Islam has been subdivided into many subgroups already. :roll: These sub-sects even though they beleive in the same basic principles of Islam, they differ in the interpretation of the finer points. And every other Mullah thinks he is god sent to start his own little version of Islam. Anyway for you Info...



Read this link

The subsects for Shias are (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shi%27a_Islam)

Ghadir Khom - Fatimid - Ismaili - Nizaris - Twelvers - Zaiddiyah



For Sunni Muslims (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sunni_Islam)

Abbasid - Hanafi - Hanbali - ... so on.



I am not going to point out which of these groups have started terrorist activities. But you can read it here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Islamist_groups



Hope this helps... :D



But the fact remains that Muslims around the world have started terrorist activities and have done things that humanity is ashamed of. And the rest of the Muslims will be viewed with suspicion, its only natural. Cant help it... :(
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:30 pm

asli_badmash wrote:the fact remains that Muslims around the world have started terrorist activities and have done things that humanity is ashamed of. And the rest of the Muslims will be viewed with suspicion, its only natural. Cant help it... :(
its sad but true...i dunno if they realise they are not helping anybody's cause by their actions.

its come to a state where these terrorists commit an offence and ordinary law-abiding muslims are EXPECTED to condemn those incidents in streets and in media, else they are looked upon with suspicion.

the normal muslims just cannot afford the luxury of ignoring these fanatics. either condemn them loudly or be target for suspicion coz they are silent and minding their own business. I dont see it happen with any other communities.
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by DQ » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:49 am

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asli_badmash wrote:the fact remains that Muslims around the world have started terrorist activities and have done things that humanity is ashamed of. And the rest of the Muslims will be viewed with suspicion, its only natural. Cant help it... :(
its sad but true...i dunno if they realise they are not helping anybody's cause by their actions.
its come to a state where these terrorists commit an offence and ordinary law-abiding muslims are EXPECTED to condemn those incidents in streets and in media, else they are looked upon with suspicion.
the normal muslims just cannot afford the luxury of ignoring these fanatics. either condemn them loudly or be target for suspicion coz they are silent and minding their own business. I dont see it happen with any other communities.




Apart from not helping they are doing a dis-service.

What the Muslims need to observe is that such groups are weaking and demoralising the Muslims in particular.



How ??



Scenario 1.

The ban on head scarves in france.



The Muslim girls continued wearing them, the only option left for the french govt was to expel or get these students arrested.



A group in Iraq abducts french journalist and call for the lifting of ban? (Absurd, who the heck gave you the right) Anyway.



Now there is a sense of National Pride in France and a resentment to these groups. The french (public) have a sense of feeling betrayed, after all they were the strongest opponents of the war in iraq and now the Iraqis are caputring French ??



That resent ment spills on in france, the affects ... the girls who were resilient now have to remove the head scarve to prove that they are

1. French

2. Are part of the main stream .

3. To protect themselves from any sort of backlash.



The abduction ahs done nothing but broken their resolve. And god forbid the journos are harmed. Even if the govt allows wearing scarves women will not be able to wear it cause.



1. Feeling of guilt (which sould not be there)

2. Fear of being attacked etc.



So these extremists are not a chance or a fanatic group of muslims, but I presume they are a well thought about policy/ strategy whose ultimate motive is to harm Islam and Muslims.



Now I understand when the relegious leaders used to warn, that "Wahabissm is a Cancer to Islam" and is worse then the greatest threat.



Sorry Asli was treading a fine line, not to include the secratarian conflicts in Islam while posting his replies. But I think it is Important.



The Mullah that you have quoted and his likes are a dangerous creed CAD. The day you see his kind spread in Hyd, none of us is safe.



Some incidents that left me Aghast.

A paki chatting to me,

Paki- Are you muslim.

DQ - Yes

Paki - Hmm do you read Namaz

DQ - Yes

Paki - ha, really. Never heard that. I heard that all Mosques have been razed to ground in India. And the Muslims pray in Temples. Hence we consider all Muslims in India too are Kafirs.

Well the chat after that turned into an elougy of abuses, but yes this is probably how the guys are brain washed there.



- Then there is this famous 'Mullah Omar of Afghanistan"

He promised each person who killed a Shia a garden in Heaven

And the only way to legitimise a Woman (apart from his school of thought) was Ra**.



If such thought and such Mullahs start infiltarting Hyd then yes we are not safe. That is why I suggest.



- Do not show indifference.

- If you hear any such absurdities being propogated, stand up to it.

- You do not need the police to raid these out, its the communities responsibility to flush such extremists out.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:41 am

DQ wrote:A paki chatting to me,
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Well the chat after that turned into an elougy of abuses, but yes this is probably how the guys are brain washed there.
:lol: :lol:

a friend of mine, who happens to be an Indian Muslim, had a similar chat with a Paki on yahoo once.

but thankfully it didnt degenerate into abuses...but the Paki's allegations were the most comical to read...like for instance he said that in India Hindus are entitled to forcibly marry one daughter from every muslim family...:?

i hope my friend's replies were enuf to educate that poor sod...



on the same lines we must remember that Indians too have lots of preconceived notions and prejudices about Pakistanis. I used to have many too, until i became very friendly with several Pakis over internet and after having a few personally abroad. hopefully the recent cricket series there has opened lots of closed minds and wud continue this way in future too.
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by Habitual Perfectionist » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:24 am

AB....VHP and the Shiv Sena have been called Hindu extremist groups as their views are extremist in nature and the bedrock of their viewpoint is based on the Hindu religion. Similarly, organisations like LeT, JeM etc. have been branded muslim terrorist organisation as their ideology supposedly stems from Islam.



I fully agree with you when you say that a terrorist doesn't have a religion except for personal gains.



It maybe wrong nomenclature, but your point that its used only for muslims is something I don't agree with.
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by Saradhi » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:31 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
azazel wrote:because, its not tht easy. they have the support of so many clerics n even muslims themselves. in many cases, they're sympathised with rather being condemned for wht they do. the younger generation is being dragged into it by established terrorists by playing on their sentiments which are aroused by the atrocities being suffered by muslims elsewhere.
whats the solution for that ^^^? i think its education, jobs and smaller families. if ppl are busy earning money legitimately, their priority changes.

...and why get worked up if cops arrest a few a**h***s who allowed themselves to be dragged into the mess?




Education.

First ask thenm to close their Madarasas and come out and learn some English.

They dont want to learn english and still want a CEO seat to handle the whole Company. Bull Shit.

Its not the education they want, they want full 360 degree turn in their culture and their mind set.



Khuran never said "Dont learn English" . But these fellows doesnt want to speak and learn English which is one form of the Globalization and still wants to lead the World.
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by akhilis2cool » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:51 pm

Welcome Back Saradhi saar, the angry young man of FHDB :D

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