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by DQ » Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:04 am

India a land of rich cultural heritage.

Pratices in our tradition imbibed by our fore fathers have possibly been done to avoid present day vices.



Such as



- Coughing or knocking on the door, before walking into ones own house.



- Respect and behaving in front of elders, (badao ke saamne unchi awaj me nahi baat karna)



- Elders behaving in front of children. (NOT EVEN WATCHING MOVIES OR LISTENING TO SONGS IN FRONT OF CHILDREN)



I remember 18-20 yrs back when children are watching TV elders never came in, and the other way around.



^^^^^ Now being considered Dhakyanusi and Crap.



The cool Indian:



- First association with a ROCK / POP group.

- USE OF SLANG (birth right)

- NO elders and children, everybody needs to gel and chillax.



This has led to the disintgration of societies around the globe, sodomy, paedophilia etc etc are a result of this cool culture. Is India headed that route.



The change in the past few years, apart from technology we are sure to be the super power in ""COOLNESS"" is it right?
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by marko » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:22 pm

i agree with what i think you are saying, but in the words of Dylan "you'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone, for the times they are a changin". i hate most of popular culture of the west however me hating it isn't going to change it
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by DQ » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:34 pm

marko wrote:i agree with what i think you are saying, but in the words of Dylan "you'd better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone, for the times they are a changin". i hate most of popular culture of the west however me hating it isn't going to change it




So true Marko.



but hating is not the solution, what I feel is accept what is right.



For e.g. Frankness and openness, a good thing in the "western culture", you will not find people beating around the bush.



The idea here was, the present Indian Youth think that by endorsing Jackson or Heavy metal they can identify themselves in the global community.

The general trend is to shun all your Indianness to be able to make a mark globally, which is so untrue.



Activists around the globe are fighting to get those finer points in their communities which Indians have by default.
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by Sharjeel » Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:01 pm

There are good and bad things during every time and era. We do seem to be leaving the station of sanity as we progress. But I have not lost faith in humanity. After all the novelty of being outspoken/cool/whatever has worn off, they will go back to their chivalrous and modest and decent ways again.



marko wrote:i hate most of popular culture of the west however me hating it isn't going to change it
As DQ said hating is not the solution. And Yes, your opinion does count. If Mahatma Gandhi thought like you, we still would be polishing British boots.
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by Habitual Perfectionist » Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:18 pm

Generalising oriental culture as being good and western culture being bad is not a very healthy practice. Each culture has its own good or bad points. In our own culture, we've had some negatives which have been discussed often in these fora. Ideally, people should imbibe the best of all cultures that they have access to. But, as I said, it's an ideal picture, not something that's very practical. Human beings would always be prone to follies.



DQ..you're true when you say that the present day Indian youth has imbibed a lot of negatives from the western culture. Your hating a trend is not all that useless as you think. Come tothink of it, when you hate the negatives from the western culture, atleast one individual is coming out of the system unscathed. That is a lot of good.



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by DQ » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:22 am

Habitual Perfectionist wrote:Generalising oriental culture as being good and western culture being bad is not a very healthy practice. Each culture has its own good or bad points. In our own culture, we've had some negatives which have been discussed often in these fora. Ideally, people should imbibe the best of all cultures that they have access to. But, as I said, it's an ideal picture, not something that's very practical. Human beings would always be prone to follies.

DQ..you're true when you say that the present day Indian youth has imbibed a lot of negatives from the western culture. Your hating a trend is not all that useless as you think. Come tothink of it, when you hate the negatives from the western culture, atleast one individual is coming out of the system unscathed. That is a lot of good.

Will elaborate more in my perfectspeak today.




Yea a trend can be disliked but not all aspects of a culture.



Anyway its about the old fashioned and supposedly cool Indian. Where is this coolness leading to ?



To keep abreast with coolness we are losing at a drastic pace.



We lost our wealth to occupiers, that loss was not bad. Today we are losing much more then that ....
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by azazel » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:21 pm

my 2 cents: yes, there is a lot of western influence on everyone these days. n yes, ppl do seem to go to great lengths to show-off their coolness by imbibing a lot of craaap in their lives. so? leave 'em be! sooner or later, they'll come back to reality. All U n I could do is, take the better aspects of anything n act on them. Leaving behind ur own culture just coz the world thinks its old/boring/whatever is stoopid.
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by marko » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:19 pm

there are lots of things i like about culture in the uk and ireland, respect for individuality, privacy, etc. however the celebrity driven economy drives me nuts, in a year where 50000 people die in a single earthquake in Iran the front pages of the majority of newspapers rarely leave the topic of who David Beckam is cheating on now, or some nobody who won a reality tv show and insists on displaying their breasts in the street.

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by Sharjeel » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:32 pm

Sharjeel wrote:There are good and bad things during every time and era. We do seem to be leaving the station of sanity as we progress. But I have not lost faith in humanity. After all the novelty of being outspoken/cool/whatever has worn off, they will go back to their chivalrous and modest and decent ways again.


azazel wrote:yes, there is a lot of western influence on everyone these days. n yes, ppl do seem to go to great lengths to show-off their coolness by imbibing a lot of craaap in their lives. so? leave 'em be! sooner or later, they'll come back to reality. All U n I could do is, take the better aspects of anything n act on them.


See the similarity?!? Me n Azzy make a great team. C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:10 pm

Sharjeel wrote:C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
be careful Az....i see a 100 meanings in gramp's words.....:|
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by Scorpion's Sting » Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:27 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
be careful Az....i see a 100 meanings in gramp's words.....:|




:shock: :shock:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



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by Sharjeel » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:32 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
be careful Az....i see a 100 meanings in gramp's words.....:|
U scared him off!!! :x :x :x
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by Scorpion's Sting » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:04 pm

Sharjeel wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
be careful Az....i see a 100 meanings in gramp's words.....:|
U scared him off!!! :x :x :x


What were you planning on doing Gramps?



On second thought, I don't wanna know, I don't wanna know!!
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by Alexis » Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:C'mere my pet; let grampa give u a nice carrot...
be careful Az....i see a 100 meanings in gramp's words.....:|


:shock: :lol: :lol: Andy!
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