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Re: Pak sobatage

by CTC » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:24 pm

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full ... _id=134249



"Sources said that many new technologies were tried in Agni-III – rocket motors with burn duration of more than 100 seconds, fault tolerant avionics and launch control systems. Flex nozzle control system, which helps in changing the thrust axis for the control of the missile, was also used. The mission team also tested the velocity of the vehicle that is capable of flying at 16 to 17 times the speed of sound".



As you all said we need to try again and again till we succeed. Flex Nozzle is something that facinates engineers. I wonder how it performed during the flight. It would be great acheivement if we succed in this critical technology. Flex nozzle is a engineering challenge. NASA has used similar nozzles for their space vehicles.
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Re: Pak sobatage

by Mayavi Morpheus » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:52 pm

paris_dakar wrote:well the point is....non of us can build a rocket but we do know that we need that and that can't drag on. why are you so reticent to even question the reasons for failure.


I am not saying that we should not question the reasons for failure, but do so with respect. Respect for scientists, engineers the management and everyone. Afterall they are more knowledgeable than you and me.
There is nothing wrong is asking why the missile failed, but stay away from questioning DRDO's competence since you lack the knowledge and information about missiles.
I would respect you when you question the design failures based on real facts, but not based on some 'facts' pulled out of a paki's ass. Sample this:

There is sufficient proof that the design of first stage is wrong as the missile has flew only 12 kM before falling into sea.


This idiot cant tell the difference between altitude of the missile flew and the distance, yet he doesnt shy away from proclaiming that the DRDO engineers are incompetent.

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Re: Pak sobatage

by paris_dakar » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:58 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
paris_dakar wrote:well the point is....non of us can build a rocket but we do know that we need that and that can't drag on. why are you so reticent to even question the reasons for failure.


I am not saying that we should not question the reasons for failure, but do so with respect. Respect for scientists, engineers the management and everyone. Afterall they are more knowledgeable than you and me.
There is nothing wrong is asking why the missile failed, but stay away from questioning DRDO's competence since you lack the knowledge and information about missiles.
I would respect you when you question the design failures based on real facts, but not based on some 'facts' pulled out of a paki's ass. Sample this:

There is sufficient proof that the design of first stage is wrong as the missile has flew only 12 kM before falling into sea.


This idiot cant tell the difference between altitude of the missile flew and the distance, yet he doesnt shy away from proclaiming that the DRDO engineers are incompetent.

Agni Designers are incompetent, A painful truth : read it




point taken my friend. I don't give a lot of credence to that commentator because of where its aimed at. But I don't want our security to be victim of homegrown political jingoism either.



I don't doubt the competence of our engineers and scientists but lie said before, its the system that needs to work...and are the political bosses playing the cards right. My only objective in analysing the failure done by peers ofcourse, is so that we can guage how much smoke has been blown up our asses:)
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by CTC » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:42 pm

I am not saying that we should not question the reasons for failure, but do so with respect. Respect for scientists, engineers the management and everyone. Afterall they are more knowledgeable than you and me.

There is nothing wrong is asking why the missile failed, but stay away from questioning DRDO's competence since you lack the knowledge and information about missiles.

I would respect you when you question the design failures based on real facts, but not based on some 'facts' pulled out of a paki's ass. Sample this:



There is sufficient proof that the design of first stage is wrong as the missile has flew only 12 kM before falling into sea.


This idiot cant tell the difference between altitude of the missile flew and the distance, yet he doesnt shy away from proclaiming that the DRDO engineers are incompetent.

Agni Designers are incompetent, A painful truth : read it
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Mayavi you seems to know nothing about missiles and how they are tested, before you call someone idiot you should know about your own level of understanding, do not call your self a genius with some medicore hoshposh knowledge.

The above statement was correct to the facts that Missile flew only 12 kM in altitude and covered a range of about 1000kM.

Questioning someone's knowledge do not make you intelligent.
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by CTC » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:56 pm

Mayavi has cleverly played Pakistan game and divereted actual issue on discussing design faliure which was agreed officials in their press statements and infact was published in all leading new papers. A proper discussion would help everyone to understand why and how this is failure. This is an open forum a few respected knowledgeable citizens can make a reason out of this failure whihc will pave a way to the better understanding.
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