Are girls materialistic?

[IgiveAdamn]

Sounds like a stupid question, but I really want to know. Are girls now a days so materialistic that they always go for a bigger, better deal? Take this case- gurl-guy both fall in love, mutually, hang out during college days, and when the time has come where the girl's parents are looking for matches for her, she calmly says "I can't do anything, you aren't settled and I can't keep saying NO to my parents forever". Poor guy has a heart-break, girl lives happily ever after with green-card/well settled husband. Ofcourse parents have a hand in it, but is there anything called love? Well some may say that guys ditch girls too, but seems that doesn't happen as often now. I am asking this because many of my friends had gone through this. A man may take very little time to fall in love, but he'll take a lifetime to forget that love, and though women take a lot of time to fall in love, they can easily forget a man. And before the word 'sexist' or the phrase 'MCP' comes to your mind, please know that it's an honest question and I really hope somone'll prove me wrong.

[Kenny]

Hard to say man...is it really possible to generalize on this?

[asli_badmash]

Sounds like a stupid question, but I really want to know. Are girls now a days so materialistic that they always go for a bigger, better deal?

Yes they are.. Maybe some girls are not but SMART GIRLS ARE MATERIALISTIC. They have to be.



Love and all sounds real good when your parnets are paying your god damn bills. When it comes time to stand on your own feet and pay for your own stuff, all the love and all the promises come under pressure, and love-shove ka kurma ban jaata!



If you are not earning enough to keep up the lifestyle of girl. SHE IS GONE!



Also, when the love fades, and beleive me it does after some time; its the money and the security that you can offer which carries you through the rest of the life.



"Bhuke peat(stomach) pyar nahin hota!" Samjhe pyare...



Also, there are a lot of girls in the town. Ek gayi to kya.. dusri mill jaygi.. Maybe the one who went away was not meant for you. Cheer up.



~badmash~

[rainmaker]

i agree with most of what AB has said. but there are girls who dont bother about the money at all...



btw: imo, if a guy doesnt have a job, the girl is justified in not marrying him.

[wizzy]

*looks around...is majorly doesnt know what to say so buggers off*

[azazel]

yaar.. be pratical, nuthin's possible in life if u dun look at it from a realistic point of view.. unless ofkorz uve got $$ falling outta ur arse

[SpOiLD_BrAt]

Well, that depends on what your definition of LOVE is. Back in the day, Love was where u would fall in love w/a person and end up spending the rest of your life w/him or her. These days most people use it for their own convenience, the word holds no meaning anymore. LOVE=USE/CONVENIENCE. Relationships don't hold a candle to the green dough. I agree to all the arguments abt how love doesnt feed u, love doesnt provide a roof over your head....but can u tell me how many people are truly happy w/all of the above provided for? Chasing after money/materialistic things is like a dog chasing after its own tail, in the end u'll never have enough and are left dizzy. I agree that girls have become materialistic, dumping their so-called "loves" to marry some rich dude or some GC holder, but can u really call that LOVE? or just a matter of convenience. USE AND THROW kinda deal. It is natural for a girl to expect the least amount of security from the person she marries, to provide atleast the basic needs for her and the family, but when it becomes greedy, thats going a lil too far. There are still quite a few girls out there that arent materialistic, the balance is always maintained. The world isnt always black and white, it also has shades of grey within

[Habitual Perfectionist]

A couple of questions here.



1. Is being materialistic just about money?



2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

[SpOiLD_BrAt]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

[Habitual Perfectionist]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

[Question]

Well i don't think it's always about the money.. money is the major thing but sometimes ... they pretend to be really close freinds with someone on the outside but on the outisde they don't give two to peice of shits to them ...

[Question]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

agreed

[SpOiLD_BrAt]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

Agreed. But when u bring Maya into this topic, isnt the whole world a Maya? arent we all caught up in the eternal play of Maya? But u would also have to understand the two kinds of Maya there is, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa explains the two sides of maya (illusion), to which he referred as avidyamaya and vidyamaya. He explained that avidyamaya represents the dark forces of creation (eg: sensual desire, evil passions, greed, lust and cruelty) which sustain the world system on lower planes of consciousness. These forces are responsible for human entrapment in the round of birth and death, and they must be fought and vanquished.



Vidyamaya, on the other hand, represents the higher forces of creation (e.g. spiritual virtues, enlightening qualities, kindness, purity, love, and devotion), which elevate human beings to the higher planes of consciousness. With the help of vidyamaya, you can rid yourself of avidyamaya and achieve the ultimate goal of becoming mayatita - that is, free from maya

[Habitual Perfectionist]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

Agreed. But when u bring Maya into this topic, isnt the whole world a Maya? arent we all caught up in the eternal play of Maya? But u would also have to understand the two kinds of Maya there is, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa explains the two sides of maya (illusion), to which he referred as avidyamaya and vidyamaya. He explained that avidyamaya represents the dark forces of creation (eg: sensual desire, evil passions, greed, lust and cruelty) which sustain the world system on lower planes of consciousness. These forces are responsible for human entrapment in the round of birth and death, and they must be fought and vanquished.

Vidyamaya, on the other hand, represents the higher forces of creation (e.g. spiritual virtues, enlightening qualities, kindness, purity, love, and devotion), which elevate human beings to the higher planes of consciousness. With the help of vidyamaya, you can rid yourself of avidyamaya and achieve the ultimate goal of becoming mayatita - that is, free from maya

Bingo....that's exactly my point. you may be materialistic without being a gold-digger.

[Question]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

Agreed. But when u bring Maya into this topic, isnt the whole world a Maya? arent we all caught up in the eternal play of Maya? But u would also have to understand the two kinds of Maya there is, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa explains the two sides of maya (illusion), to which he referred as avidyamaya and vidyamaya. He explained that avidyamaya represents the dark forces of creation (eg: sensual desire, evil passions, greed, lust and cruelty) which sustain the world system on lower planes of consciousness. These forces are responsible for human entrapment in the round of birth and death, and they must be fought and vanquished.

Vidyamaya, on the other hand, represents the higher forces of creation (e.g. spiritual virtues, enlightening qualities, kindness, purity, love, and devotion), which elevate human beings to the higher planes of consciousness. With the help of vidyamaya, you can rid yourself of avidyamaya and achieve the ultimate goal of becoming mayatita - that is, free from maya

Bingo....that's exactly my point. you may be materialistic without being a gold-digger.

I wrote the samething above only problem in an untresting boring way anyways yep matrelasitc has got nothing to do with monye

[SpOiLD_BrAt]

A couple of questions here.

1. Is being materialistic just about money?

2. Bhooke pet pyaar nahi hota...par pyaar ke liye lakhpati hona zaroori hai kya?

Agree w/u on the second question, as far as the first one goes...well, being materialistic indirectly is just abt money cuz being materialistic, wouldnt u want all of the "material things" which can only be bought by money...no money, no materials....

That's right....no money...no materials....but does the corrollary also hold true? To me, the term materialistic has to do more with maya, which has much wider connotations than just money.

Agreed. But when u bring Maya into this topic, isnt the whole world a Maya? arent we all caught up in the eternal play of Maya? But u would also have to understand the two kinds of Maya there is, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa explains the two sides of maya (illusion), to which he referred as avidyamaya and vidyamaya. He explained that avidyamaya represents the dark forces of creation (eg: sensual desire, evil passions, greed, lust and cruelty) which sustain the world system on lower planes of consciousness. These forces are responsible for human entrapment in the round of birth and death, and they must be fought and vanquished.

Vidyamaya, on the other hand, represents the higher forces of creation (e.g. spiritual virtues, enlightening qualities, kindness, purity, love, and devotion), which elevate human beings to the higher planes of consciousness. With the help of vidyamaya, you can rid yourself of avidyamaya and achieve the ultimate goal of becoming mayatita - that is, free from maya

Bingo....that's exactly my point. you may be materialistic without being a gold-digger.

Isnt "materialism" a subset of Maya, rather than it being construed as being the Maya itself?

[dumpster]

lets cut out the maya / illusion thing for now.



ok u love a guy and he is jobless. then what? if u marry him how will he take care of u and how will he care for ur needs?



if he realy loves u then he'll either make sure u hav a nice life and earn enough money for a decent money. in case he is not capable of it, he'll let u go.



if he is selfish he'll just keep pursuing u in the name of 'love' even tho he has no job. he just wants u to be with him and he won't respect ur needs by making u (forcing u emotionally) to lower your level of expectations and style of living.



i'm saying this from my experience and this is not necessarily to be generalized, but i feel it is natural and expected to hav some level of materialism... to be 100% "in love" or 100% materialistic is not good for anybody.. just my 2 cents.



--dumpster

[Alexis]

Sounds like a stupid question, but I really want to know. Are girls now a days so materialistic that they always go for a bigger, better deal?

Yes they are.. Maybe some girls are not but SMART GIRLS ARE MATERIALISTIC. They have to be.

Love and all sounds real good when your parnets are paying your god damn bills. When it comes time to stand on your own feet and pay for your own stuff, all the love and all the promises come under pressure, and love-shove ka kurma ban jaata!

If you are not earning enough to keep up the lifestyle of girl. SHE IS GONE!

Also, when the love fades, and beleive me it does after some time; its the money and the security that you can offer which carries you through the rest of the life.

"Bhuke peat(stomach) pyar nahin hota!" Samjhe pyare...

Also, there are a lot of girls in the town. Ek gayi to kya.. dusri mill jaygi.. Maybe the one who went away was not meant for you. Cheer up.

~badmash~

Im gonna go with AB on this one.

If youre a dreamer, romantic, and in love----you'll view the world with rose-tinted glasses. But it doesnt take long in the real world for you to realize that love alone wont keep the boat afloat. You'll slip off cloud nine in a heartbeat and join the rest of us on terra-firma. Thats what the "real world" is all about!!!!! The grim reality of bills, bills, and more bills with tons of other responsibilities..



(Its not about girls being 'materialistic'. First of all, I think the word has pretty negative connotations.) Its not unreasonable for a girl to want her spouse to have a decent income. But hey, if shes currently earning and the guy is in pursuit of a job---I dont see why things cant work out. She can pay the bills alone for a while.

But if shes gonna be the sole earner for a long time because the guy has no drive, ambition or maturity---then how can you blame the girl for moving on to greener pastures? Thats what any girl with her head placed firmly on her shoulders would do.

[OneMinuteCooler]

You took the words right out of my mouth Alexis, except you explained it more clearly. Well written and I WHOLLY agree!

[Kenny]

yeah I agree too



and we all need thoda time with the rose-tints

[asli_badmash]

Alexis you drove the argument home. Nice... I agree the statement "Girls are materialistic" has negative tinge to it... How else can it be said.. "Girls love money". No thats bad tooo! Maybe..."Diamonds are girls best friend". But If I were a girl I would love my guy to have some money, stability in life. So the love can flourish. It's tough for a girl to love you in the midst of all the instability. Its only fair that they see your wallet and whats in it before they commit. Would you call this being materialistic ? I dont think so.

The world isnt always black and white, it also has shades of grey within

Nice argument(s) SB. I think you are on the rosy side of love. Sure.. love can be fun and all and it has its plus points. But when the reality bites, that when people wake up. We all need love to survive. Me thinks, a balance of love and reality is what keeps the boat afloat.

HP: Pyar ke liye Karoadpathi hona zaroori nahin hai.. but if you are filthy rich; more people will love you. Sure.. thats not love in the pure sense but can you say the difference ?

Isnt "materialism" a subset of Maya, rather than it being construed as being the Maya itself?

Now you are going into the semantics of maya. In some ways you are right. That apart if you want to survive in this world. You have to play by the rules and Duniya-Maya go togather. If you think maya is bad.. then you have to leave duniya too.. that includes all bonds, all love and everything. Well not everyone can do so. So if you want the Duniya you better earn some maya.



~badmash~

[CtrlAltDel]

to too go with AB an Lexi on this...Duniya runs on money...whether u like it or not. just love wont feed u. the man needs some steady income to maintain the realtionship...



anyways the unemployed and the "down-on-luck" types wud be too busy trying to earn money than trying to improve love life..

[IgiveAdamn]

hmmm, so it finally boils down to money. Well then I guess I am right, all girls are materialistic. that's actually good to know because the next time one knows who to trust and who to not trust. being an altruist I hope that all guys get richer by the second, and all who....er..girls get the 'perfect' guy with enough dough, since that's what really seems to matter. Welcome to the stone age.

[SpOiLD_BrAt]

Agree to all of your above points. A balance is certainly necessary, agree w/alexis on the part where a guy has no drive, no ambition watsoever....but how can u call it LOVE when a girl says she loves a guy and then moves onto greener pastures the second her parents choose a rich dude, explaining her actions by sugar-coating it, the whole "u are not settled and I cant keep saying no to my parents." If she was so keen on marrying someone like that, she shouldnt have fallen in love in the first place. After a while, u gotta start taking responsibility for your decisions. When u make one, stick with it. Love is when the guy makes sure she's well provided for, taken care of and the girl to stick by him during bumpy times. Thats how love/relationships/happy marriages work. Like I said, too much of anything is always bad.
For me being on the rosy side of love, maybe I am (I wasnt before, lol thats a whole another story) but life certainly has its lil surprises...I have been in love for quite a while now and well..............

[IgiveAdamn]

For me being on the rosy side of love, maybe I am (I wasnt before, lol thats a whole another story) but life certainly has its lil surprises...I have been in love for quite a while now and well..............[/color]

You mean to say you were hurt too, and now you are happy? And by the way, I'd prefer saying 'life certainly has it's shocks'.